In Episode 19 Joe talks about a new distinction he has found when defining freedom.

Joe shares his definition of freedom and compares it to what is the most common definition of it and the sustainability of that approach.

"...the most typical definition of freedom is to be able to do whatever I want, whenever I want. And I just want to ask you if you could open your mind up even more than normal, and be and just embrace curiosity about where I'm going to take you on this conversation. And just let this let this simmer, as I've said in other in previous podcasts, you know, don't necessarily agree with what I'm saying, don't disagree with what I'm saying, just let it sit in the middle somewhere, because this is a different way of looking at things. So here's the thing, if, if typically, the most common definition of freedom is to be able to do whatever we want, whenever we want. The next question has to be well, for how long? How long? Can you do whatever you want, whenever you want?...."

"...We don't create values, we unveil them..."