Mark and Gary Stephens have a conversation about personal growth. 

Books and seminars bring some value, but conversations with real people can bring transformation. 

Gary has been creating physical goals for himself over the last couple of years. You can check out his youtube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIF0sSqi8_jWDImYAwHCEBg

If you start a physical challenge, and want to share about it on the podcast with Mark, send him an email at [email protected]

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