Michael Kalmbach of the Creative Vision Factory joins RE Vanella in the bunker to talk about his work with the CVF, the politics of the Delaware art world, and the basic things that our system gets wrong about recovery. This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation. Part 1 was released yesterday, check it out here.

Show Notes:

• Shipley Lofts

• Creative Vision Factory

• The full Toni Morrison essay