In this podcast episode, Thomas interviews Will Ulmer, an entrepreneur with a diverse career journey. Will shares his personal and professional experiences, starting from his upbringing in Demopolis, Alabama, to his college days, and his various career transitions, including insurance sales, marketing, and starting a clothing company. He discusses overcoming struggles such as substance abuse and financial difficulties, and the significance of personal growth symbolized by growing a mustache and riding a bike.

Will details the challenges of starting a clothing company, seeking advice, and learning business terms like net 30. He emphasizes the importance of customer experience and personal connections in business, reflecting on Maya Angelou's quote about how people remember the way you make them feel.

The conversation also covers Will's ventures into the shipping container business, a marijuana grow facility, and his current roofing company. He talks about the importance of trust, quality service, and his future plans, including a sunglass line and real estate investments. Despite his varied interests, Will is currently focused on his roofing business and trusts his instincts for future endeavors. He also expresses an interest in leveraging social media for business, particularly YouTube, and shares his admiration for the golf channel No Laying Up on YouTube.

Overall, the episode provides insights into Will Ulmer's entrepreneurial mindset, his adaptability, and his approach to learning and growing through experience