In this episode Jennifer welcomes Karen Catlin to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of her Better Allies initiative. From its humble beginnings as an anonymous Twitter account to a comprehensive movement with four published books, Karen shares the evolution of her work in creating more inclusive workplaces. The conversation explores the significant milestones that have shaped conversations around inclusion, from "Lean In" to the racial reckoning of 2020 to the rise of AI. Karen and Jennifer reflect on the courage required to learn in public, the importance of resilience when making mistakes, and why vulnerability is essential for authentic leadership.