"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

E41: Steve Hsu on the Future of Everything


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In this episode of Upstream, Erik sits down with theoretical physicist and startup founder Steve Hsu. They discuss political polarization in academia, the fertility crisis, AI, and more.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(02:21) Political polarization in academia

(05:47) The decline of meritocracy in academia

(10:00) Why can't academia change?

(13:27) Truth-seeking in startups

(20:36) Sponsor: Shopify

(23:36) The fertility crisis

(32:11) AI and labor

(41:06) What industries are safe from AI automation?

(44:05) AI Safety vs accelerationism

(47:51) Understanding the rise of China

(58:46) The future of the US/China relationship

(01:00:41) How does Steve allocate his time?

(01:04:41) Steve's suggestions for underexplored opportunities

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Editor: Michelle Poreh

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