1 year into Breaking Barriers, we wanted to revisit the reason we started Breaking Barriers to begin with. In this episode, Pastor Andrew and Pastor Bobby continue the conversation around the false dichotomy between church growth and spiritual depth. Learn why many churches simultaneously mourn decline while refusing to celebrate growth, and discover how this mindset may be holding ministries back. They share practical insights on balancing numerical growth with discipleship, debunk common myths about church growth being "unspiritual," and explore how growing churches become sending churches. Whether you're a pastor feeling guilty about wanting your church to grow or a ministry leader looking to break through plateaus, this episode provides a bedrock, Biblical perspective on embracing both the crowds of Acts 2 and the deep discipleship that follows.

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