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  • Inside Clay's Scale from 85 to 600 (with Julia Govberg, Chief of Staff)

    Join me in conversation with Julia Govberg, Chief of Staff at Clay.

    Julia joined Clay at ~90 people around their Series B. Almost two years later, the team is close to 600, and just raised a Series D from Wellington, Sequoia, Meritech, and First Round.

    Timestamps
    00:00 Introduction to Julia and Clay

    01:53 Journey from First Round Capital to Clay

    04:30 Understanding the Chief of Staff Role

    06:32 Quarterly Planning and Cross-Functional Collaboration

    08:57 Scaling Challenges

    10:45 Talent Acquisition Strategies

    10:52 Leadership Dynamics and CEO Insights

    11:03 Time Management and Prioritization

    14:29 Transitioning from PLG to Enterprise Sales

    15:55 Leveraging LinkedIn for Brand Growth

    17:31 Building a Passionate User Community

    19:57 Learning and Adapting in a Chief of Staff Role

    25:15 Embracing Negative Maintenance as an Operating Principle

    28:55 Quickfire Insights and Advice

    33 min
  • Inside dbt Labs' Run to $100M ARR (with Kaitlyn Henry)

    Join me in conversation with Kaitlyn Henry, Chief of Staff at Motherduck.

    Prior to Motherduck, Kaitlyn was CoS at dbt Labs, where she helped the company grow past $100M ARR, build out its exec team, and execute its merger with Fivetran.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to Kaitlyn Henry and Motherduck

    02:39 Career Path: From Venture to Chief of Staff

    04:48 The Role of Chief of Staff: Expectations vs. Reality

    07:19 Prioritizing Projects as Chief of Staff

    12:00 Measuring Success in the Chief of Staff Role

    14:28 Scaling Companies: Lessons from dbt

    17:00 Investing Insights: Operator vs. Investor Perspectives

    19:31 Hiring Leaders: Building Effective Executive Teams

    21:38 Post-dbt Fivetran merger

    28:00 Transitioning to Mother Duck

    29:49 Choosing the Chief of Staff Role

    31:24 Lessons Learned from DBT

    34:33 Building Trust with Executives

    37:21 Navigating the AI Era at Mother Duck

    41 min
  • Building 0 to 1 AI Products at Nooks (with Alex Zhang)

    Join me in conversation with Alex Zhang, Nooks' first PM and now Group PM.

    Nooks is an AI platform building the agent workspace for GTM teams, backed by Kleiner Perkins and Lachy Groom. Alex joined as employee ~50 and is now a group PM, driving many of Nooks 0 to 1 product bets.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to Alex Zhang and Nooks

    02:15 Career Journey: From DoorDash to Nooks

    03:43 Understanding Nooks: The AI Sales Platform

    06:30 Human vs. AI in Sales:

    09:04 Transitioning from SaaS to AI Native Products

    10:52 Creative Solutions: Using AI for Sales Training

    12:33 Debugging AI Features: Identifying the Issues

    13:14 Exploring AI Interaction and Latency Challenges

    14:54 Expanding Product Surface Area

    16:54 Growth and Evolution: Alex's Journey at Nooks

    18:40 Lessons from "Failed" Products

    22:08 Rapid Fire

    25 min
  • Inside the first BizOps seat at Cogent Security (with Grace Hua)

    Join me in conversation with Grace Hua, head of Biz Ops at Cogent Security. Cogent is building autonomous cyberdefense and recently announced its $42M Series A led by Greylock and BCV.

    Grace joined as employee ~15 and has spent the last 9 months working across hiring, partnerships, fundraising, and more - essentially operating as an extension of the founders as the company scales.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Grace Hua's Journey: From McKinsey to Cogent

    02:43 The Importance of People in Career Decisions

    05:11 Navigating the Startup Landscape: Finding the Right Fit

    07:06 Understanding the Cybersecurity Landscape

    09:34 Building a Company from the Ground Up

    11:43 The Role of Culture in Startup Success

    13:59 Establishing Trust and Relationships in a New Role

    16:31 Reflections on Time Management and Decision Making

    17:46 A Week in the Life of a BizOps Leader at Cogent

    21:28 Capitalizing on Opportunities with BizOps

    22:47 Effective Interviewing Techniques

    24:42 Closing Candidates in a Competitive Market

    27:01 Key Qualities for Founding BizOps Roles

    30:51 Leveraging AI for Enhanced Workflows

    33:31 Rapid Fire

    37 min
  • Inside Braintrust: Scaling a Category-Defining AI Evals Platform (with Sarah Zeng)

    Join me in conversation with Sarah Zeng, who has gone from investing to operating at the forefront of AI - first as one of the first 50 employees at Character AI and now scaling Braintrust. Braintrust is a go-to platform for AI evals and observability. They recently announced their $80M Series B, led by ICONIQ and joined by returnees a16z, Greylock, Elad Gil, basecase and others.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to Sarah Zeng and Her Journey

    02:37 Transitioning from Investing to Startups

    04:57 Joining Character AI

    06:48 The Move to Braintrust

    08:39 Effective Strategies for Chief of Staff Onboarding 10:03 Understanding Braintrust's Core Products

    12:38 Navigating the Role of Chief of Staff

    15:06 Growth in Consumer AI vs. Infrastructure AI

    16:40 Braintrust's Rapid Growth and Market Position

    19:20 Future of AI Evaluation and Observability

    21:56 Rapid Fire

    27 min
  • Designing the Standard for AI Detection (with Olivia, GPTZero's First Product Designer)

    Join me in conversation with my friend Olivia Kusio, the first and founding product designer at GPTZero — one of the breakout AI companies of the last two years.

    Olivia joined as the 5th employee. Two years later, GPTZero has grown to millions of users and $25M+ in revenue.

    We cover:

    🎨 Designing for trust in AI products

    🧠 How students and teachers are really using AI

    💬 Building culture inside a rocketship startup

    & more

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction to GPTZero and Olivia's Journey

    01:51 The Role of a Product Designer at GPTZero

    03:42 Building a Team and Initial Projects

    05:22 Designing for Speed and Quality

    06:49 The Evolution of Design Tools

    08:26 Design Principles for Trust and Credibility

    09:06 User Interaction with AI in Education

    12:36 The Responsible Use of AI in Education

    15:28 Scaling Company Culture at GPTZero

    19:06 Moments of Realization and Responsibility

    20:58 Lightning Round: Insights and Inspirations

    25 min
  • Inside the First BizOps Seat at Column (with Charlie Liao)

    What does it look like to be the first BizOps hire at a company rebuilding banking from the ground up?

    In this episode, I chat with Charlie Liao, who joined Column - founded by William Hockey, one of Plaid's co-founders - when the team was around 70 people.

    We talk about what drew him from fintech investing to operating, how he’s defining the BizOps function at one of the most technical startups in fintech, and his advice for founders hiring their first BizOps person. Enjoy!

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction to Column and Charlie

    01:05 Transition from Investing to Operations

    02:53 Joining Column: The Decision Process

    05:50 Navigating Startup Risks and Responsibilities

    08:39 Defining Success in BizOps

    10:41 Handling Ambiguous Projects

    12:00 BizOps and Cross-Functional Collaboration

    12:41 Importance of Documentation and Processes

    14:00 Balancing Speed and Structure

    14:42 Setting Boundaries in a Utility Role

    15:49 Scaling the BizOps Team

    16:54 When to Hire Your First BizOps Person

    18:06 Qualities of a Great First Hire

    19:46 Mindset for Quick Decision Making

    20:23 Rapid Fire Questions and Closing Thoughts

    25 min
  • Inside Clay’s Marketing Engine (with Matt Maiale, Clay’s First Marketing Hire)

    When Matt Maiale joined Clay, the go-to-market platform helping sales teams find, enrich, and personalize outreach at scale, there were just five people and no marketing playbook.

    Clay now serves thousands of customers and recently raised a $100M Series C at a $3.1B valuation.

    In this conversation, we talk about how Matt chose Clay at the seed stage, built the company’s growth flywheel, and developed a bottoms-up marketing approach that scaled organically.

    00:01 — Intro

    00:55 — Matt’s path before Clay

    01:56 — Finding & evaluating Clay

    02:53 — How Clay closed him

    04:06 — Week 1 as first marketer

    05:04 — Building the growth flywheel

    05:28 — Fixing conversion

    06:14 — ICP & vertical focus

    07:47 — Simple wins (Buy button, funnel fixes)

    07:47 — Waitlist as a lever

    10:08 — Messaging: startups vs. enterprise

    11:40 — Defining the role

    12:29 — “Bottoms-up marketing”

    14:11 — Referrals & community

    15:57 — Spend philosophy

    17:07 — Compounding growth channels

    18:30 — Product education

    20:07 — Emojis to describe Clay

    21:45 — Culture bits

    23:16 — Misconception: growth at all costs

    24:18 — Hiring your first marketer

    25:06 — Post-Clay travel

    25:59 — What he’s building now

    To learn more about Matt and what he’s working on:

    https://instantdomainsearch.com/

    https://mattmaiale.substack.com/

    https://x.com/maiale

    28 min
  • Lessons & Early Days Inside Climate Unicorn Watershed (with Tammy Tseng)

    In this conversation, I get to talk with Tammy, climate unicorn Watershed's 25th employee and second data hire. We discuss Tammy's journey from Quora to Watershed, how founders can attract and retain early talent, the evolution of data roles in startups, and more. Enjoy!

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to Tammy and Watershed

    01:21 Choosing Watershed

    03:28 Recruitment Insights: What Watershed Did Right

    04:11 Transitioning from Quora to Watershed

    05:20 First Days at Watershed: The 'First Day Ship' Tradition

    06:34 Advice for Early Function Roles

    08:01 Early Decisions and Their Long-Term Impact

    09:15 Recognizing the Need for More Data Talent

    10:17 Growing with Watershed: Retaining Early Talent

    11:46 Navigating Career Transitions

    13:35 Unlearning as the Company Scales

    14:47 Key Moments in Watershed's Journey

    15:55 The Role of Culture in Team Dynamics

    16:18 Navigating Climate Challenges as a Company

    17:50 Hiring for Data Roles: Insights for Founders

    19:20 Evolution of Data Science Roles in the Industry

    21:10 Advice for New Employees in Startups

    23:06 Lightning Round

    25:29 996 Startup Work Culture

    More on Watershed: https://watershed.com/

    More on Tammy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tammytseng/

    More on Sarah: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-du/

    29 min

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