Casting with yet another participant from the land of british people, Few welcomes on to the cast Early Morning Barking/Richard! The two borderline (and one additionally NPD) males break the ice and delve into some common topics they both hold close to their disordered hearts. They start with the topic of therapy: how does sitting in a room and talking with someone once a week lead to you getting better? What modalities work for different people? What of the (justified) fears of disordered people of the immense destructive and creative potential that therapy poses to their life’s trajectory? * Trigger Warning * Suicide makes an early appearance in the cast, both in terms of the motivations for it, and as an impetus to change in both podcasters lives. Richard’s early life is discussed, as are the environmental factors that heightened the experience of the onset of both disorders (don’t make there be a wrong answer to the question ‘what do you want' when you parent your kids!). Coping strategies and frank honesty of some disordered impulses to aggression are discussed, and how one’s motivation changes further along in the process of self-awareness. Pro tip #37, avoid things that will occasion the walk of shame to the next place to apologize for yesterday’s behaviour. They even get around to discussing ‘multiple indictment man’ and empathizing (not sympathizing!) with the general phenomenon of narcissistic collapse with extreme exposure, and question (hypothetically) the conditions under which such a person could express remorse or how one could hold open space for someone who’d committed such wrongs who wanted to take another path. Between all of this and the witty banter in between, if this doesn’t catch your attention, find another podcaster you enti- ahem, I humbly accept each person’s perspective. Come for the deep disordered discussion, stay for the petty devaluing of one’s peers in group therapy!