Dr Les Kaufman is a marine biologist & coral reef expert. He's been at the forefront of trying to understand how these really complex & unique ecosystems can flourish in the colourful, glorious way they do for over 40 years. And now he puts his time & energy into clinging on by the fingernails for their preservation.
We talked about how and where Corals live, and the ecosystems they host (50% of all fishes!). We then spoke about the anthropological dangers facing them, and differences across cultures' approaches to this, finishing by talking about his latest research into behavioural economics and psychology - predicting the changes to the threats and their deaths.
3:58 What IS a Coral Reef?
9:58 Coral Reefs as an ecosystem
14:06 Kingsman Atoll (nearly human-free)
17:57 Coexisting with Reefs (Pacific Islanders)
24:01 Reef-building clams
27:37 Shifting homes due to climate change?
33:53 Threats Corals are facing
36:59 The Great Forgetting
43:45 Why is the ocean fundamental to all life?
45:37 Les's career journey
49:35 His latest research in Behavioural Economics
55:58 Applying to fisheries
59:21 Making predictions in nature (Science of Complexity)
01:05:48 Our impacts generate more uncertainty
01:08:11 Restoration Ecology
01:16:24 Les et al's Pandemic prevention cost paper (in Science Journal)
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The paper on the cost of zoonotic disease vs preventative efforts, which Les talks about at the end 'Ecology and Economics for Pandemic Prevention' : https://science.sciencemag.org/content/369/6502/379.summary
Les's Links & Orgs he works with:
Boston University Profile https://www.bu.edu/biology/people/profiles/les-kaufman
Pardee Center for the Study of the Longer-Range Future http://www.bu.edu/pardee Coral
Restoration Consortium http://crc.reefresilience.org
Coral Restoration Foundation https://www.coralrestoration.org
Mote Marine Laboratory https://mote.org
Herbert W. Hoover Foundation https://www.hwhfoundation.org
Fragments of Hope (Belize) http://fragmentsofhope.org
Conservation International https://www.conservation.org
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