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Three-time guest of the pod and "Australia's Ottessa Moshfegh" Paul Dalla Rosa joins me at my house for bento takeout while we discuss Natsuo Kirino's crime novel, Out.

In this book, a woman murders her husband and her workmates at a bento factory become implicated in disposing of the body. From there, an incredibly disturbing story unfurls. It was a great read, suggested by Paul.

We talk the drudgery of factory work, precarity, always thinking about money, the gruesome realities of disposing of a human body, erotics and death, violence, and much more.

And over on the Patreon exclusive aftershow, Back Matter: we watch an episode of Iron Chef, eat mochi, and talk about our favourite culinary show while it's playing. Listen here:  https://www.patreon.com/GettingLit

Buy Paul's book here: https://pauldallarosa.com/an-exciting-and-vivid-inner-life

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