Ariel returns to continue Ecclesiastes with Holly! They get on the topic of parenting and allowing children to become their own person. Ariel (ICB) brings up this therapy term she learned, hypervigilance, and why it was so hard to tell her family she was pregnant. Holly (NRSV) connects understanding circumstances to not feeling depressed or like God's punishing her. Join a nurse-in-training (Ariel) and a therapist-in-training (Holly) as they talk bible, therapy, and the 10,000 daily COVID cases in their state.

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