Holly meant to hear Joanna's thoughts on deconstruction, but Joanna just gets Holly talking about her dating life instead. Holly romanticizes liturgy in Catholic and Anglican churches and confesses belonging to a non-affirming church. Then, Joanna shares about beginning spiritual direction, working at a domestic violence shelter, and relating with her Russian partner. Join Joanna and Holly as they connect over being Asian American and raised in a fundamentalist immigrant church. Translations below.

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Joanna: I think the *dessert and snacks* part where everyone's mingling is like...

Holly: ...and process, like, Chinese New Year and do I *bow during ancestor veneration*?  Those sorts of things.

Holly's first Gen Z guest, Ariel, asks about Holly's dating life again, then shares her thoughts on the racial identity of children raised in the Black church. She shares her hopes for her daughter Nala and calls out Solomon for being depressing in Ecclesiastes! Listen in as Ariel (NLT) imparts some wisdom on the up and downs in life and Holly (NRSV) says what she tells her clients in therapy, "Change is inevitable!"

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Gen Z-er Basil teaches Holly not to be a Boomer and read the bible while walking. Except Holly refuses. Preview the delightful duo of immigrant children Holly and Basil before they record their next episode.

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Basil (NIV) and Holly (NRSV) read Ecclesiastes 4-6 and get talking about friendship! Holly explains the difficulties in Basil's psychosocial stage of development. Then, Basil teaches Holly "the nod" and confesses to having COVID when he evacuated from Europe in March.

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Ariel returns to continue Ecclesiastes with Holly! They get on the topic of parenting and allowing children to become their own person. Ariel (ICB) brings up this therapy term she learned, hypervigilance, and why it was so hard to tell her family she was pregnant. Holly (NRSV) connects understanding circumstances to not feeling depressed or like God's punishing her. Join a nurse-in-training (Ariel) and a therapist-in-training (Holly) as they talk bible, therapy, and the 10,000 daily COVID cases in their state.

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Amy and Holly record the last chapters of Ecclesiastes (NLT) and Holly connects it to what she's been learning about trauma resolution. Then, Amy shares about her faith deconstruction. Hear Amy and Holly explore the intersection of politics and evangelicalism and its impact on their previous volunteer work at an anti-trafficking organization.

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Ariel returns to continue Ecclesiastes with Holly! They get on the topic of parenting and allowing children to become their own person. Ariel (ICB) brings up this therapy term she learned, hypervigilance, and why it was so hard to tell her family she was pregnant. Holly (NRSV) connects understanding circumstances to not feeling depressed or like God's punishing her. Join a nurse-in-training (Ariel) and a therapist-in-training (Holly) as they talk bible, therapy, and the 10,000 daily COVID cases in their state.

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Basil (NIV) and Holly (NRSV) read Ecclesiastes 4-6 and get talking about friendship! Holly explains the difficulties in Basil's psychosocial stage of development. Then, Basil teaches Holly "the nod" and confesses to having COVID when he evacuated from Europe in March.

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Gen Z-er Basil teaches Holly not to be a Boomer and read the bible while walking. Except Holly refuses. Preview the delightful duo of immigrant children Holly and Basil before they record their next episode.

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Holly's first Gen Z guest, Ariel, asks about Holly's dating life again, then shares her thoughts on the racial identity of children raised in the Black church. She shares her hopes for her daughter Nala and calls out Solomon for being depressing in Ecclesiastes! Listen in as Ariel (NLT) imparts some wisdom on the up and downs in life and Holly (NRSV) says what she tells her clients in therapy, "Change is inevitable!"

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