Holly meant to hear Joanna's thoughts on deconstruction, but Joanna just gets Holly talking about her dating life instead. Holly romanticizes liturgy in Catholic and Anglican churches and confesses belonging to a non-affirming church. Then, Joanna shares about beginning spiritual direction, working at a domestic violence shelter, and relating with her Russian partner. Join Joanna and Holly as they connect over being Asian American and raised in a fundamentalist immigrant church. Translations below.

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Joanna: I think the *dessert and snacks* part where everyone's mingling is like...

Holly: ...and process, like, Chinese New Year and do I *bow during ancestor veneration*?  Those sorts of things.

Holly and Lisa talk for the first time since moving away from D.C.! After returning back to North Dakota, Lisa met her husband Alex, and two years later, they find themselves talking about sex, porn, and politics with Holly from their new home in Colorado. (Brave man, Alex!) Read 2 Corinthians 2 along with Holly (NRSV) Lisa (NIV) and Alex (NLT), then join in on their discussion about sexual ethic, climate change, and human flourishing.

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Phoebe and Holly model how easy it is to read the bible with friends! They kick off the 2 Corinthians series with chapter 1 in both English (NRSV) and Mandarin. Phoebe shares about moving back to Taiwan and their "CDC." Then, Phoebe and Holly get real about their conflictual feelings toward the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. Finally, Holly asks about Phoebe's first Christian boyfriend. Translations below.

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Holly: You choose, Ecclesiastes or 2 Corinthians.

Phoebe: Later, once I was in the U.S., I had many more opportunities to meet Christians. At first, I was just coming to bible study to understand a bit, but then I realized, God really is here with us. I started attending church and little by little understood more and more...

Holly: You found it? (2 Corinthians)

Holly: Okay, you can read it in Chinese.

BFF Lauren makes it onto the show before Holly has the chance to ask Amy if she'll do this podcast with her. They plan to read the bible, but Holly leaves to make applesauce before they share their thoughts on it. Typical bible-reading phone call. Just being authentic Christians here.

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