In this episode, Patria sits down with Adam Young — licensed clinical social worker, teacher at the Allender Center, host of The Place We Find Ourselves, and author of Make Sense of Your Story — to unpack the beginning of what Patria calls "The Arc of Integration."

This is Part 1 of a 2-part conversation exploring what it really takes to move from brokenheartedness to integration.

This first conversation lays the foundation:

• Why we avoid our wounds.
• Why honesty feels terrifying.
• And why healing cannot happen alone.

Part 2 will move further into attachment, relational repair, and what freedom actually looks like in lived experience.

🧠 In Part 1, We Explore:

✦ Brokenheartedness & Captivity
When something shatters inside us, we build ways of living that promise we’ll never feel that pain again. Those strategies protect us. They also enslave us. “Far more than repentance, we need the healing of the broken heart.”

✦ The Mystery of Honesty
Why do some people pursue truth about their past… and others double down on denial? Quoting Eric Hoffer: “Far more crucial than what we know or do not know is what we do not want to know.” The question beneath everything: What do you want? How free do you actually want to be?

✦ Why You Can’t Heal Alone
Trying to make sense of your childhood by yourself doesn’t work — even if you’re intelligent, self-aware, and spiritually committed. What was “normal” to you may not have been normal at all. Healing requires reflection. Questions. Story shared in relationship.

✦ “I Never Knew You.”
A deeper look at Matthew 7 reframes spiritual disconnection. The issue isn’t religious performance. It’s relational exposure. If we never bring our deep desires and disappointments into relationship — with God or others — we remain unknown. And you cannot heal what you won’t reveal.

🔎 This Episode Is For You If:

• You’ve done years of faith-based work but still feel disconnected from your heart
• You’re beginning to suspect your coping strategies are also your captivity
• You’re curious about story work but unsure where to start
• You sense there’s more to your story than you’ve let yourself see

• 📚 Resources Mentioned
  
• The Place We Find Ourselves - The Theory of Healing (Parts 1-3)
  • Episode 24
  • Episode 25
  • Episode 26

• Make Sense of Your Story – Adam Young's Book
• Allender Center
• Adam Young Counseling

If Part 1 resonates, sit with it. Don’t rush past it. Part 2 goes deeper. Follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges so you don’t miss what comes next.

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Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
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Safety, Belonging, and Rebuilding Without Self-Betrayal

In Part 2 of Finding Your Voice After Spiritual Harm, Patria Rector continues the conversation with Kate Petersen, Stephanie Rose, and Stephen R. Sanders, shifting focus from silence to reconstruction—what it actually looks like to rebuild trust, belonging, and spiritual safety after harm.

This episode explores the complicated terrain that comes after deconstruction. The group discusses how to recognize safe relationships, how to listen to your body and intuition again, and how to avoid replicating old patterns of self-betrayal in new spaces. They also name the grief of lost community and the fear that often accompanies starting over.

Rather than offering replacement belief systems or quick fixes, Part 2 emphasizes discernment, pacing, and integration. Healing, they suggest, is less about finding the “right” spirituality and more about creating environments where your voice is respected and your boundaries are honored.

If you’re learning how to belong without disappearing—and how to trust yourself without shutting others out—this conversation offers grounded guidance and compassionate honesty for the road ahead.

Kate Peterson: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/kate-petersen
Stephanie Rose: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/stephanie-rose
Stephen R. Sanders: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/stephen-r-sanders


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Silence, Survival, and the Cost of Telling the Truth

In Part 1 of Finding Your Voice After Spiritual Harm, host Patria Rector is joined by Kate Petersen, Stephanie Rose, and Stephen R. Sanders for an honest conversation about how spiritual harm often teaches people to silence themselves in order to stay safe, connected, or accepted. Together, they explore how spiritual environments can subtly—or overtly—disconnect people from their intuition, questions, and inner authority.

The discussion names the ways fear gets spiritualized, obedience is rewarded over honesty, and silence becomes a survival strategy rather than a choice. This episode centers on recognition rather than resolution. Kate, Stephanie, and Stephen share insights into how losing your voice is rarely a personal failure, but often an adaptive response to unsafe systems. The group reflects on the emotional cost of telling the truth, especially when belonging has historically been conditional.

Part 1 is about naming what happened without rushing toward answers. It’s about understanding why reclaiming your voice can feel destabilizing—and why it’s still the first necessary step toward healing after spiritual harm.

Kate Peterson: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/kate-petersen
Stephanie Rose: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/stephanie-rose
Stephen R. Sanders: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/stephen-r-sanders


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In this episode of Echoes and Edges, host Petria, founder of The Broken and Beautiful, is joined by her husband Jerry, along with longtime friends Julie and Steve McClay, for a candid roundtable on how personal awakening reshapes marriage and long-term relationships. The conversation centers on what happens after old roles loosen and familiar patterns stop working, but before new ways of relating feel solid. This in-between season—often quiet, disorienting, and emotionally unpracticed—is explored through the lens of the Enneagram, attachment, therapy, and lived relational experience.

 Together, the group reflects on how growth begins as an interior process before it becomes relational—and why relationships often feel the impact immediately. They discuss boundary confusion, emotional presence, grief, humor, repair, and the slow work of learning how to stay connected without fixing, managing, or retreating. Rather than offering quick solutions, this episode names the liminal space as a threshold—one that invites pause, honesty, and renegotiation of connection in marriage, parenting, and partnership.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear:

• What “Rise With Us” means beyond hustle, reinvention, or self-optimization
• How the Enneagram can expose, amplify, or support relational change
• Marriage after awakening: when old roles no longer fit
• Heart, body, and gut triad dynamics in long-term couples
• Why growth can feel lonely—even when relationships are deepening
• The shift from fixing and managing to naming discomfort and staying present
• Humor, grief, and repair as essential relational tools
• Parenting, shame spirals, and why healing yourself matters more than perfect parenting

Who This Episode Is For:

• Couples navigating change after therapy, trauma work, or spiritual shifts
• Anyone using the Enneagram to understand marriage and long-term partnership
• Parents realizing growth can’t be outsourced to better behavior or systems
• Listeners living in the “not who we were, not yet who we’re becoming” space

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Heart Path Story Coaching

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Part Two continues the sacred conversation begun in Part One, turning toward voice, integrity, and life after spiritual harm has been named.

Listener note: This episode includes discussion of spiritual abuse and institutional betrayal. Content is non-graphic but may be activating. Please listen with care.

Host Patria Rector is again joined by Hannah May as they explore what comes after silence—after shame loosens its grip and self-trust begins to return. This episode centers the often costly work of reclaiming agency, setting boundaries, and choosing integrity when institutions cannot or will not change.

Together, they reflect on accountability without repair, the grief of leaving faith communities, and the slow disentangling of God from systems that caused harm. Rather than offering easy answers, this conversation invites discernment, honesty, and courage.

In this episode, we explore:

• Reclaiming voice and self-trust
  
• Accountability without apology
  
• The grief of leaving unsafe systems
  
• Faith after institutional betrayal
  
• Boundaries, discernment, and integrity
  

This episode continues the Echoes and Edges 2026 theme, Rise with Us: Voices that Heal, Stories that Lead, inviting listeners into a deeper conversation about healing, faith, and post-traumatic growth.

Connect with Hannah May


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Listener note: This episode includes discussion of grooming and spiritual abuse. Content is non-graphic but may be activating. Please listen with care.

In this episode of Echoes and Edges, Patria Rector is joined by Hannah May, founder of Sacred Story Space. Hannah shares a personal story of spiritual harm and institutional betrayal within the church. Raised in systems that blurred obedience with holiness, she reflects on how suppressed intuition, unexamined authority, and silence shaped her sense of safety, identity, and God.

Together, we explore ambiguous grief, nervous system impact, and the ways trauma lives on in relationships and self-trust. Through storywork, discernment, and reflection, this episode invites curiosity in place of compliance—and connection in place of isolation. In this episode, we explore:

• Spiritual harm and institutional betrayal
• Attachment, boundaries, and loss of self-trust
• Ambiguous grief and emotional regulation
• Reclaiming intuition and inner authority
• The role of storywork, community, and personal rhythms in healing

This is not a story told for spectacle.
It is a story held with care,

Part Two continues the conversation, focusing on repair, resilience, and post-traumatic growth.

Connect with Hannah May

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In this episode of Echoes and Edges, host Patria Rector and therapist Janet Friesen discuss the theme for 2026, 'Rise with Us: Voices that Heal, Stories that Lead.'

They explore the importance of rebuilding connection with ourselves and trusting our inner voice, which is often suppressed by societal expectations. The conversation delves into the meaning of peace, recognizing unhealthy patterns in relationships, and the role of friends in the healing process. They emphasize the significance of self-reflection, choosing well-being, and creating personal rhythms to foster emotional health.

The episode concludes with a reminder of the importance of community and curiosity in the journey of self-discovery and healing.

Janet Friesen Counseling

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In this mini episode, Patria and Ro explore the inner world of Enneagram Type Nines—the Peacemaker, Mediator, and Adaptive Presence—especially as the holidays amplify noise, tension, and unspoken expectations. They unpack how Nines instinctively move toward harmony through numbing, merging, or quietly disappearing, often in ways that go unnoticed by others.

Patria shares personal insight as a Nine, naming how being physically present while emotionally withdrawn can become a survival strategy in overwhelming environments. Together, they explore why holidays can intensify the pull to fade out, and how healing for Nines involves gently coming back online—reconnecting with the body, the voice, and the belief that their presence truly matters.

This conversation invites Nines to notice when self-erasure masquerades as peace, and to trust that engagement—not silence—is what actually creates harmony. A steady, compassionate companion for Type Nines navigating family systems, overstimulation, and the quiet work of reclaiming presence.

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In this mini episode, Patria and Ro explore the inner world of Enneagram Type Eights—the Challenger, Protector, and Leader—especially as their energy shows up during the emotionally charged holiday season. They unpack how Eights instinctively move toward intensity, take charge in chaos, and use strength as a way to protect what’s tender beneath the surface.

Together, they name how control and decisiveness often function as a defense against vulnerability, and why emotional closeness can trigger an unconscious “wall up” response. They offer insight into the Eight’s deep testing of trust, their fierce loyalty, and the often-misunderstood tenderness that lives beneath the armor.

This conversation invites Eights to notice when protection turns into distance, to become aware of the impact of their presence, and to explore how strength and vulnerability can coexist. A steady, affirming companion for Type Eights navigating family dynamics, heightened emotions, and the courage it takes to soften without losing power.

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In this episode, Patria and Ro explore Enneagram Type Seven—the Enthusiast who seeks joy, possibility, and freedom. We talk about how Sevens use optimism and activity to avoid pain, why the holidays can intensify distraction and overplanning, and what helps Sevens stay present with both joy and discomfort.

A thoughtful, encouraging conversation for Sevens and those who love them.

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