Singer and songwriter Ed Robertson joins me from the room he recorded vocals for the new album Detour de Force, talking about being Wendys Employee of the Month in 1985, the band's early years of hard work, social media and music, dealing with the pressures of expectations, how he's felt so free making Detour de Force, Barenaked Ladies' relationship with the UK, an ace story from playing at Glastonbury, how a hit single isn't everything, what the superpower of Barenaked Ladies is, and more...

Detour de Force is out 16 July

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Songs: Barenaked Ladies 'Flip', Cock Sparrer 'Working'

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