This week, Nation Hahn catches up with Dr. Lisa Chapman, president of Central Carolina Community College. Chapman began her academic career at Central Carolina, before rising to a leadership role at the system office in Raleigh. She recently returned home to the college. During the course of our conversation, she shares what it feels like to go home again, what drew her back to Central Carolina, what reforms might be needed on transfers, and why budget stabilization is essential for community colleges across the state. Thanks for listening!