with David Hines 

Recorded at Auckland Unitarian Church 22nd January 2023

My original subject for today was Gonna lay down my sword and shield, which was about concentration camps in World War 2, and how this appalling story was the background to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

But it was such a complicated story I couldn’t get my head around it. And I was looking for a new topic.

And then Jacinda came up with the idea of resigning …. And it was obvious.

 For more information see  https://aucklandunitarian.org.nz/election-wishlist-2023/