In this episode of Conversations of Agile Change, Dr. Jen Frahm sits down with Elizabeth Beattie, Program Change Lead for AI and Innovation at UNSW, to explore what it really takes to lead change in the age of AI. Elizabeth shares how she's applying agile, human-centered change techniques to foster curiosity, build capability, and create safe spaces for experimentation at a research-intensive university. They dive into lessons on leadership vulnerability, why co-creation beats top-down control, and how AI transformations are fundamentally different (and not so different) from past changes. Whether you're a change leader, innovator, or AI-curious, this conversation will spark fresh ideas for your own practice.