You don’t want to hear this, I don’t want to record it, i much rather by working on short stories, but I feel convicted that I didn’t yet tie up all loose ends, from the last rant about the Bible being god grimoire.

Christian.

This is only meant for your comfort you will not win any arguments with this. just letting you know what you are walking into.

You can avoid the faith passages all you want, you can steer clear of all the talk about the nebulous spirit, and stick to here are the facts, here my reasons, the skeptic will smell your fear and go you are doing this inspite of your book, your book talks about spirits, miracles, and mysteries and i won’t ever buy that, and you are hiding from it. you’re embarrassment of it. Protest too much?

Even if you unravel their absorb alternatives to Jesus being the messiah,

they will park at

if you can’t catch God with a butterfly net,

and bring that leprechaun here so i can get my wishes met

U can take your rainbow map and go on and get...

So far, simple heathens will mock your spiritual ness. Here’s where i am probably 98 percent wrong, herumnautically and contextaully up in outer space.

Here’s how your relationship with the spirit will be neuteredby believers.

To begin with I think you should read all of Romans 14 before you listen any further. Assuming you didn’t

That chapeter talks about get too dogmatic about your spiritual preferences, diet sabbath, debatable issues. Don’t argue too much about it for the sake of someone who is weak in the faith might stumble by you pushing over one of their idols, and they stumble in the faith, or have a crisis of faith because so much of their faith was connected to that idol. Sure the chapter only calls out diet and holy day but I think you can extrapolate it to other things as well.

All. Christians acknowledge the Holy Spirit and the scriptures and say both are important. One group leans closer to the written word, and the other closer to the Holy Spirit.

Surely you can go wrong in other extreme or excluding one entirely.

For the sake of the argument it is much easier to point at the sins of the people who abuse the Holy Spirit, and use it to excuse all kinds of rift raft. How Can the sola scriptura crowd go astray?

It has been my observation the sola scriptura crowd is so worried you will go wild if you seek the Holy Spirit, that they water it down as much as possible so it sounds more like a brick than a ghost, and add on so much regualations that it can impact you the least possible way positively or negatively.

One warning is they quote “nothing beyond what is written.”

If you’re too buddy buddy with the Holy Ghost you will be tempted to go beyond what is written to outside the safe zones or a consistent hermetic and expositional preaching. A lot of this stems from 1 corinthaians 4:6 nothing beyond what is written.

But why does the expotionlly preacher tell you about all that they know about that verse, the historical culture at that time, events going on around that place, even though that stuff is not written in text, they see no problem overlaying historical or grammatical commentary beyond what is verbatim written, or personal anecdotes that is also beyond what is written. They will tell you about the author and most likely influences going on in his life, who his immediate audience was, and some how none of this is in the text, it might all be accurate, or close, at least interesting, but definitely beyond their goal post of nothing beyond what is written,

However their goal post is misplaced.

1 corthinians 4:6

“Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the saying: “Nothing beyond what is written.” The purpose is that none of you will be inflated with pride in favor of one person over another.”

That passage is talking about don’t get favoritism to one human teacher over another, neither paul or Apollo’s because it’s the spirit that always gifted either, not the human teacher themselves.

I don’t think that verse’s focus is sola scriptura becasue the New Testament may not have even been finished at this time. At least 2 Corinthians wasn’t written when Paul wrote nothing beyond what is written in 1 Corinthians. Here’s the same verse, but with the verse before and after

“Therefore don’t judge anything prematurely, before the Lord comes, who will both bring to light what is hidden in darkness and reveal the intentions of the hearts. And then praise will come to each one from God. Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the saying: “Nothing beyond what is written.” The purpose is that none of you will be inflated with pride in favor of one person over another. For who makes you so superior? What do you have that you didn’t receive? If, in fact, you did receive it, why do you boast as if you hadn’t received it?”

Is that Paul saying only ever quote the Old Testament verbatim? Or only his letters verbatim? Is Paul saying something else?

What is that these people received that they’re not to get boastful of 1 just the Old Testament , 2 just the letters from Paul, or 3 something else

The next verse paul wrote this

“You are already full! You are already rich! You have begun to reign as kings without us — and I wish you did reign, so that we could also reign with you!”

What made them kings, was it the Old Testament, no I think it was their relationship with God, as repeneed believers.

If you still think paul is primarilly saying sola scriptura in this chapter that was the main thrust was corthians, root out the silly appeals to the Holy Spirit, only say what was written in the Old Testament or what you hear from me. If you still think’s paul first love in that passage was words and expositional teachings. Why did he follow up with this

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“But I will come to you soon, if the Lord wills, and I will know not the talk but the power of those who are inflated with pride. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power.

“Jesus also used this illustration: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like the yeast a woman used in making bread. Even though she put only a little yeast in three measures of flour, it permeated every part of the dough.””

The Holy Spirit is 3D classes, it’s the yeast that makes the words rise, off the pages.

No it’s not say the sola scriptura crowd, no verse says that..

Ok but paul wrote this in 1 Corinthians chapter 3 the place right before nothing beyond what is written

“When I came to you, brothers, announcing the testimony of God to you, I did not come with brilliance of speech or wisdom. For I didn’t think it was a good idea to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. I came to you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. My speech and my proclamation were not with persuasive words of wisdom but with a powerful demonstration by the Spirit, so that your faith might not be based on men’s wisdom but on God’s power. However, we do speak a wisdom among the mature, but not a wisdom of this age, or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. On the contrary, we speak God’s hidden wisdom in a mystery, a wisdom God predestined before the ages for our glory. None of the rulers of this age knew this wisdom, for if they had known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written: What eye did not see and ear did not hear, and what never entered the human mind — God prepared this for those who love Him. Now God has revealed these things to us by the Spirit, for the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man that is in him? In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who comes from God, so that we may understand what has been freely given to us by God. We also speak these things, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people. But the unbeliever does not welcome what comes from God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually.”

Is it just me or did Paul appeal a lot to the spirit?

Paul at that time at least didn’t talk like an expository preacher all the time

Yes some sins are obvious other are hidden. just because some people abuse the liberty of the Holy Spirit doesn’t mean high brow faith is without flaws

Speaking of things writen beyond when Paul wrote 1 Corinthians chapter 4.

Here’s paul comparing and contrasting the letter and the spirit in 2 Corinthians chapter 3

“Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, like some, letters of recommendation to you or from you? You yourselves are our letter, written on our hearts, recognized and read by everyone. It is clear that you are Christ’s letter, produced by us, not written with ink but with the Spirit of the living God — not on stone tablets but on tablets that are hearts of flesh. We have this kind of confidence toward God through Christ. It is not that we are competent in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our competence is from God. He has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit produces life. Now if the ministry of death, chiseled in letters on stones, came with glory, so that the Israelites were not able to look directly at Moses’ face because of the glory from his face — a fading glory — how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness overflows with even more glory. In fact, what had been glorious is not glorious now by comparison because of the glory that surpasses it. For if what was fading away was glorious, what endures will be even more glorious. Therefore, having such a hope, we use great boldness. We are not like Moses, who used to put a veil over his face so that the Israelites could not stare at the end of what was fading away, but their minds were closed. For to this day, at the reading of the old covenant, the same veil remains; it is not lifted, because it is set aside only in Christ. Even to this day, whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their hearts, but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. We all, with unveiled faces, are looking as in a mirror at the glory of the Lord and are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory; this is from the Lord who is the Spirit.”