Lean Out is now on our annual summer hiatus. But we while we’re away, we wanted to bring you some popular encore episodes from our archives, including today’s show — from May of 2024. Enjoy, and we’ll see you in September!

2020 was a turbulent year in American politics, and in the America media. The editor of The New York Times has conceded that the paper went “too far”during that time and said that it is now working to pull itself back from such “excesses.” My guest on the program today was at the paper during that period — and left to report critically on what she calls “the revolution,” both for her media company and for her debut book.

Nellie Bowles is an American journalist and co-founder of The Free Press. Her book is Morning After the Revolution: Dispatches From the Wrong Side of History.

Nellie Bowles is my guest, today on Lean Out. Transcript to come for paid subscribers.

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