Anthony and Zach go full host-mode for a no-guest episode of Endurance State of Mind—and it’s one of the rawest yet. From scorching heat and quad cramps to dry heaves and digging deep, the guys break down every brutal, hilarious, and inspiring moment of the Big Butts Ultra. They recap race strategy, near-meltdowns (literally), and what it takes to push through when your body wants to quit. Plus, Tour de France hot takes, a shoutout to Endurance State of Mind listeners who showed up big, and a look at what’s next for 2025 (Clear Creek, Tunnel Hill, Rocket City, and more).

For anyone who’s ever wondered what it really feels like to go to the pain cave—and come out the other side—this one’s for you.

takeaways

• The Tour de France is a major cycling event that captivates audiences worldwide.
• Tade Pogačar is a dominant force in cycling, showcasing exceptional skills.
• The dynamics of team strategies in cycling can significantly impact race outcomes.
• Mindset plays a crucial role in endurance racing and achieving personal goals.
• Preparation and training are essential for success in endurance events.
• Community and camaraderie enhance the experience of participating in races.
• The heat can be a significant factor in endurance races, affecting performance.
• Nutrition and hydration strategies are vital for maintaining energy levels during races.
• Personal connections and support from friends can motivate racers during challenging events.
• Reflecting on race experiences can provide valuable insights for future performances. Zach experienced severe nausea during the race but pushed through.
• The mental aspect of racing is as important as the physical.
• Support from friends and family can make a significant difference in endurance events.
• Finishing a race despite challenges can lead to a sense of pride.
• Post-race recovery is crucial for future performance.
• Nutrition strategies need to be adjusted based on individual needs and experiences.
• The importance of listening to one's body during a race cannot be overstated.
• Racing is not just about competition; it's also about enjoyment and personal growth.
• Future races should be approached with a mindset of enjoyment rather than just competition.
• Everyone has a story to tell, and sharing those experiences can inspire others.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction and Overview of the Episode

01:02
Tour de France Insights and Analysis

11:54
Best of the Pine Belt Recap

13:33
Big Butts Race Mindset and Goals

24:59
The Race Begins: A Shared Experience

26:52
Pushing Through Pain: The Struggle of Endurance

30:30
Support and Energy: The Role of Friends

31:48
Post-Race Reflections: Celebrating Achievements

33:34
Mindfulness and Preparation: The Pre-Race Mentality

36:28
Nutrition Strategy: Fueling the Race

39:18
The Turning Point: Facing Challenges

42:05
The Final Stretch: Overcoming Nausea

50:08
Mental Toughness: The Power of Perseverance

55:31
Looking Ahead: Future Races and Lessons Learned

56:42
Post-Race Reflections and Nutrition Challenges

59:45
Soreness and Recovery Insights

01:01:31
Future Race Plans and Goals

01:04:59
Apparel Discussion and Brand Promotion

01:09:35
Upcoming Events and Community Engagement

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What do you get when you combine sub-2:30 marathons, high school cross country chaos, and a son named Miles? You get Jacob Plocher—state record holder, school counselor, coach, and Mississippi’s own marathon man.

In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, Jacob takes us through his journey from overweight middle schooler to breaking state records and chasing finish lines at world majors. We talk about Boston breakthroughs, dad strength, fueling mistakes that ended with firefighters, and what it means to grind smarter—not just harder.

Whether you're a seasoned runner or just lacing up, Jacob’s story will leave you inspired to chase your own impossible.

takeaways

• Jacob's journey into running began with a desire to lose weight.
• He faced challenges in high school but learned the value of hard work.
• Transitioning to college running introduced new levels of competition.
• Coaching and community played a significant role in his development.
• Failures in races motivated him to improve and push harder.
• Training smarter became essential after becoming a father.
• Jacob emphasizes the importance of speed work in marathon training.
• He aims to represent Mississippi in major marathons.
• Family support has been crucial in his running journey.
• Jacob's future goals include breaking personal records and state records.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction to Jacob Plotker

02:42
Jacob's Early Running Journey

10:32
Transition to College Running

16:38
Marathon Experiences and Lessons Learned

22:32
Coaching Philosophy and Impact on Young Athletes

30:32
Life in Mississippi and Coaching at Gaucher High School

36:02
Connecting Through Running: Personal Stories

36:53
Life Changes: Balancing Fatherhood and Coaching

37:56
Adapting Training: From Old School to Smart Running

39:42
The Impact of Family on Running

40:51
Boston Marathon: A Turning Point in Performance

41:30
Training Insights: Speed vs. Endurance

45:06
Advice for New Runners: Building a Strong Foundation

46:30
Incorporating Strength Training for Runners

49:53
Cross Training: Finding Balance in Workouts

51:01
Rapid Fire: Quick Insights on Running Preferences

53:47
Rivalry and Growth: Competing with Friends

55:31
Future Goals: Breaking Records and New Challenges

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This week on Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Louis Gagne—a cyclist, KOM chaser, and all-around ambassador for two wheels and transformation. Louis opens up about rediscovering cycling during COVID, trading in beers for big climbs, and how the bike became his therapy and his mission. From mountain biking in Mississippi to riding team-issued EF Education bikes through the streets of California, Louis’ journey is packed with grit, gear, and giving back.

We cover everything from bike nerd-out moments to how he helped his wife lose 30 pounds through cycling, and how he's quietly changing lives through charitable rides and bike donations. Oh, and did we mention he’s holding over 120 KOMs and still going?

Whether you’re curious about the Tour de France, wondering what it’s like to own more bikes than shoes, or just need some motivation to get back in the saddle—this episode is for you.

takeaways

• Louis Gagne started cycling again during COVID for mental health and fitness.
• Cycling has become a central part of Louis's life, leading to personal growth and community involvement.
• The importance of proper equipment in cycling cannot be overstated.
• Team dynamics play a crucial role in the success of cyclists in the Tour de France.
• Louis emphasizes the therapeutic benefits of cycling for mental well-being.
• The Peloton allows cyclists to conserve energy, making teamwork essential.
• Louis's charity work involves providing bicycles to those in need.
• The Tour de France showcases the incredible endurance and strategy of professional cyclists.
• Louis believes Tadej Pogacar is on another level compared to other cyclists.
• The cycling community is supportive and encourages newcomers to the sport.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction to the Tour de France and Guest Introduction

03:15
Louis Gagne's Cycling Journey: From COVID to Competitive Cycling

06:36
Early Life and Endurance Sports: Discovering Passion for Cycling

09:20
Transitioning from Mountain Biking to Road Cycling

12:13
Life Changes and the Impact of Hurricane Katrina

15:25
Competitive Cycling: Experiences and Challenges

18:12
The Cycling Community and Local Competitions

21:27
Reflections on Cycling and Personal Growth

23:37
The Cycling Boom During COVID

32:15
Supporting Spouses in Cycling

40:55
Health Transformations Through Cycling

45:43
Exploring the Future of Cycling and Running

48:09
The Joy of Segment Hunting

50:23
Strava and Social Media Presence

50:49
Rapid Fire Tour de France Questions

53:08
Analyzing Tour de France Dynamics

01:01:08
Future of Cycling and Emerging Talents

01:08:16
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Sometimes, the quietest room is the loudest place we’ll ever be. In this gripping episode, co-host Anthony Herrington opens up about the emotional spiral that followed the loss of his mother, the end of a long-term relationship, and the isolation that nearly consumed him. It was in the silence of an empty house—alone with his thoughts—that Anthony realized something had to change.

What followed was a powerful transformation: from walking to clear his mind to strapping on a 30-pound weighted vest and walking off 85 pounds—both physical and emotional. This is the story of how a dark season became the birthplace of discipline, endurance, and self-discovery.

From suicidal thoughts to triathlon finish lines, Anthony's journey reminds us that rock bottom can be the trailhead to something greater. If you’ve ever felt stuck, alone, or unsure of your path forward, this episode is for you.

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From drumline director to gravel grinder, Andy Gilstrap didn’t just dip his toe into cycling—he cannonballed in. In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Andy to hear how he went from casual Trace rides with his family in 2023 to finishing the brutal 200-mile Unbound Gravel race just a year later. We talk Saturday group rides, training with coach Jed, surviving (and thriving) in the Kansas Flint Hills, nutrition strategies, clipless pedal fails, and why he’s already planning to go back for more. Whether you're a veteran cyclist or just considering your first ride, Andy’s story is full of grit, humor, and inspiration.

takeaways

• Andy Gilstrap is a relatively new cyclist who completed the Unbound 200.
• He started cycling in 2023 and quickly signed up for races.
• Training for the Unbound 200 involved a month of specific preparation.
• Nutrition during the race included gels and hydration strategies.
• The Unbound 200 was a challenging but rewarding experience for Andy.
• Cycling has a strong community aspect, with camaraderie among riders.
• Bike maintenance is crucial for long races like Unbound 200.
• Achieving training compliance is important for building confidence.
• Andy plans to participate in more local races after Unbound.
• The Tour de France is an exciting event that Andy enjoys watching.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction to Andy Gilstrap

05:33
Journey into Cycling

09:48
Training and Preparation for Races

14:46
The Unbound 200 Experience

19:40
Nutrition and Strategy in Endurance Cycling

28:16
Nutrition and Performance Insights

29:57
The Dynamics of Group Riding

32:44
Aerodynamics in Cycling vs. Running

34:30
Training Techniques: Cycling vs. Running

36:30
The Social Aspect of Cycling

38:17
Bike Maintenance and Race Preparedness

40:37
Mental Challenges in Endurance Racing

43:42
Training Compliance and Race Strategy

50:15
Future Races and Cycling Events

51:23
Tour de France Predictions

53:32
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In a powerful turn of the mic, co-host Zach Vogt steps into the spotlight to share his deeply personal journey—from a childhood rooted in love and discipline to a decade-long battle with addiction. Zach opens up about his rock bottom moment on a business trip to Canada and how it sparked a complete transformation. With raw honesty, he details how running, faith, and grace helped him rebuild his life and ultimately become a force in the endurance community. This is a story of resilience, redemption, and the power of taking that first step.

Zach Book Club

• •GRIT by Angela Duckworth
• •Atomic Habits - James Clear
• •12 Rules for Life - Jordan Peterson
• •Can’t Hurt Me - David Goggins
• •The Art of Learning - Josh Waitzkin
• •Extreme Ownership - Jocko Willink & Leif Babin
• •The Obstacle is the Way & Ego is the Enemy - Ryan Holliday
• •The Happyiness Hypothesis - Jonathan Haidt
• •The Art of Impossible - Steven Kolter
• •The Infinite Game & Start with Why - Simon Sinek

takeaways

• Zach's journey highlights the importance of transparency and honesty.
• Growing up in a supportive family shaped Zach's values and character.
• Discovering running in high school opened the door to endurance sports.
• College years brought challenges, including experimentation with alcohol.
• A pivotal work trip became a turning point in Zach's life.
• Sobriety was achieved through faith, determination, and support.
• Zach's transformation led to remarkable achievements in running.
• Gratitude plays a crucial role in Zach's daily life.
• The importance of community and support in recovery.
• Zach encourages others to seek help and turn their lives around.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction to Zach's Journey

03:25
Zach's Early Life and Family Background

06:29
The Shift to Endurance Sports

09:44
College Life and Early Running Experiences

12:38
The Rise of Alcohol in Zach's Life

15:35
Navigating Work and Personal Challenges

18:33
The Turning Point: Rock Bottom in Vancouver

21:25
The Path to Recovery and Sobriety

24:28
Life After Sobriety and Endurance Achievements

41:30
The Critical First Days of Recovery

43:09
Navigating the Early Days of Sobriety

44:41
Finding Inspiration in Endurance

46:54
Building Micro Habits for Success

50:07
The Redemption Tour: A New Beginning

52:34
Transformative Running Experiences

56:59
Living in Gratitude

01:02:09
The Power of Community and Support

01:09:39
Scriptural Guidance in Recovery

01:12:22
Living the Dream: A Life of Gratitude

01:16:42
New Chapter

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In this milestone 10th episode of Endurance State of Mind, Zach and Anthony sit down—just the two of them—for an honest conversation reflecting on their podcast journey so far. From their surprise nomination to the “Best of the Pine Belt” awards to building an organic listener base through Strava and real-world connections, the duo opens up about what they’ve learned, what they’d do differently, and where they want to go next.

They also dive into:

• Why they’ve avoided “pushing” their nomination and prefer organic growth
• Building community through Strava, run clubs, and future merch
• Behind-the-scenes of their podcast prep process and how they want to improve
• Life updates: Anthony’s move to the coast, Zach’s family adventures, and race recaps
• Future goals: Big Butts 50K/100K, ultra-cycling, and the Dog Days 5K with the whole Vogt crew

This episode is packed with laughter, honesty, reflection—and the promise of more stories to come, including Zach and Anthony finally telling their own.

takeaways

• The podcast has evolved significantly in just ten weeks.
• Recognition as a nominated podcast boosts motivation.
• Community engagement is crucial for podcast growth.
• Future plans include expanding the podcast's reach.
• Reflections on the first ten episodes highlight areas for improvement.
• Personal stories enhance the connection with the audience.
• Family involvement in running creates memorable experiences.
• Heat training is essential for performance in hot races.
• Cycling presents new challenges and opportunities for growth.
• Insights from the Tour de France inspire training strategies.

Chapters

00:00
Welcome Back and Podcast Journey

03:25
Exciting News: Nominations and Recognition

06:22
Reflections on Growth and Audience Engagement

09:15
Building Community and Expanding Reach

12:24
Future Plans: Merchandise and Collaborations

15:30
Reflections on Top Episodes and Improvement

18:36
Personal Stories: Sharing Our Journeys

21:25
Life Updates and Local Running Scene

31:46
Urban Fitness Rides and Community Engagement

33:18
Joining the Gulf Coast Running Club

35:05
Experiencing Local Races and Family Involvement

37:07
Summer Activities and Family Dynamics

38:16
Fleet Feet's Inaugural Big Run Event

41:10
Breaking Barriers in Running Communities

43:21
Training for Upcoming Races

44:20
Heat Training and Performance Goals

50:14
Sauna Benefits and Longevity

52:13
Upcoming Races and Family Participation

55:19
Cycling and Ultra Training Plans

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In this powerful episode, we sit down with David Slowik—a high-energy force in Mississippi's ultrarunning scene and a beacon of resilience. From battling addiction to toeing the line at 100-mile ultras, David opens up about the micro habits that saved his life and the running community that helped him rebuild it.

He shares the emotional story behind his transformation, the spreadsheet that kept him accountable, and how his journey culminated in a euphoric finish at the Pinhoti 100. This episode isn’t just about endurance sports—it’s about grit, growth, and the power of showing up every day.

Whether you're chasing a finish line or fighting personal demons, this one will stay with you long after the run.

takeaways

• David's journey into running began as a way to lose weight after struggling with addiction.
• Running became a therapeutic outlet for David, helping him cope with anxiety and depression.
• The importance of community support in David's recovery and running journey.
• David emphasizes the need for proper nutrition and hydration during long races.
• He learned valuable lessons from his experiences in races, particularly about pacing and humility.
• David's relationship with his wife, Shelby, has been a significant source of motivation and support.
• The concept of micro habits played a crucial role in David's recovery from addiction.
• David's experiences in ultra running have taught him about resilience and perseverance.
• He believes that the pain experienced in races is manageable compared to past traumas.
• David's story illustrates the transformative power of running and community in overcoming personal struggles.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction to David Slowik

02:40
David's Early Life and Introduction to Running

06:52
Transitioning from Soccer to Running

10:39
The Evolution of David's Running Journey

17:48
Overcoming Addiction Through Running

24:26
Micro Habits and Recovery

32:35
The Role of Community in Recovery

39:38
Perceived Effort vs. Actual Value in Recovery and Running

41:02
The Journey to Endurance Sports

44:42
Overcoming Challenges in Running

48:21
Lessons from the Penhody 100

01:05:17
The Power of Community and Support

01:10:29
Finding Love Through Running

01:16:22
New Chapter

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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Michael Yarbrough—veteran of over 100 races, trail running advocate, and associate dean at Pearl River Community College. From his first steps in a post-Katrina Crescent City Classic to multiple finishes at the Mississippi 50 and beyond, Michael shares a two-decade journey of growth, grit, and giving back. We dive into how trail running shaped his life, the evolution of Mississippi's endurance scene, and why “dirt therapy” just might be the secret weapon to building mental toughness. Whether you're chasing your first 10K or eyeing a 100-miler, this episode is packed with insight, inspiration, and stories from the trail.

takeaways

• Running has been a huge part of my development growth as a person.
• The community mindset is important in pouring back into our community.
• Trail running offers a unique challenge compared to road running.
• Mental strength is crucial in endurance sports.
• Every race teaches valuable lessons about perseverance.
• Volunteering at races is as important as participating.
• The Mississippi 50 has evolved into a staple of the community.
• Injuries can be managed while still participating in races.
• Consistency in training is key to long-term success.
• Running provides a form of therapy and personal growth.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction and Guest Introduction

01:08
Michael's Journey into Running

04:58
The Transition to Trail Running

09:03
The Evolution of the Mississippi 50

13:07
The Mental Aspects of Endurance Running

17:06
Volunteering and Community Involvement

21:02
Experiences with the Mississippi 50

25:05
Challenges in Ultra Running

26:02
The Journey of Ultra Running

29:57
Lessons Learned from Races

33:03
Mental Strength and Endurance

37:42
The Importance of Community in Running

42:09
Overcoming Injuries and Setbacks

46:49
Freedom Riders: Connecting Runners and Special Needs Kids

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On this inspiring episode, we sit down with Brian Murphy—classical pianist, professor of music at William Carey University, and newly-minted ultramarathoner. Brian shares how his endurance journey began not on a racecourse, but during a deeply personal season of struggle as a father navigating his son’s diagnosis with PANDAS, a rare autoimmune disorder. What started as a desperate run for clarity transformed into a passion for running marathons, embracing suffering, and building resilience. From hitting rock bottom to finishing the Chicago Marathon with walking pneumonia, Brian’s story blends artistry, grit, and grace in a way that will move every listener. Tune in as we explore the harmony between music and miles, fatherhood and fortitude.

takeaways

• Brian Murphy transitioned from a classical pianist to a runner.
• His journey into running began during the 2020 shutdown.
• Running became a coping mechanism during his son's health crisis.
• He emphasizes the importance of community in running.
• Brian's first significant race was the Hattiesburg Half Marathon.
• He faced and overcame a serious injury (plantar fasciitis).
• The Chicago Marathon was a challenging experience due to illness.
• He learned valuable lessons about resilience and determination.
• Brian's training philosophy includes a balance of speed and endurance.
• He draws parallels between music practice and running training.

Chapters

Introduction to Brian Murphy's Journey
03:38
The Transition from Music to Endurance Sports
06:34
Facing Challenges: Brian's Son and PANDAS
09:27
The Emotional Catalyst for Running
12:25
Discovering the Runner Within
15:14
The Role of Running in Mental Clarity
18:24
Understanding PANDAS and Caretaking
21:16
Balancing Caretaking and Personal Life
24:21
The Shift to Endurance Racing
27:04
Setting Goals: From Half Marathons to Full Marathons
30:17
The Journey of Becoming a Faster Runner
33:52
The Journey of Injury and Recovery
39:49
Finding Strength in Community
44:20
The Chicago Marathon Experience
54:17
Post-Marathon Reflections and Future Goals
57:21
The Intersection of Music and Running

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