Tisha Schuller welcomes Pierce Norton, incoming CEO of ONEOK, to the Energy Thinks Podcast. Tisha and Pierce discuss:

· The role that asking questions plays in game-changing leadership;

· How traditional oil and gas leaders can address climate and decarbonization within their companies;

· The three workplace benefits of addressing climate issues;

· The key ingredient that shapes company culture; and,

· The positively infectious nature of inclusivity.

Pierce Norton is the outgoing president and CEO of ONE Gas, Inc., a natural gas utility based in Tulsa, Oklahoma that offers distribution services in Oklahoma, Kansas, and Texas. He served as the executive vice president and COO of ONEOK and ONEOK Partners before ONE Gas became a publicly traded company in January 2014. Before serving these roles, Pierce was president of then ONEOK Distribution Companies, which included Oklahoma Natural Gas, Kansas Gas Service, and Texas Gas Service, and served as the executive vice president of natural gas. In addition to previously serving at KN Energy and American Oil and Gas, he worked at Delhi Gas Pipeline where he started his career in 1982. Pierce serves on the boards the American Gas Association and the Tulsa Community College Foundation. Pierce received a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa and graduated from Harvard Business School’s Advanced Management Program.

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[Interview recorded on June 3, 2021]

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Guest host Anne Carto fills in for Tisha Schuller to welcome Andrea Passman on the Energy Thinks Podcast.

Anne and Andrea discuss:

· The role intrapreneurship plays in internal innovation

· Five ways to build a culture of intrapreneurship within your company

· How to balance cost and sustainable long-term value when pitching a business idea

· Cultivating values that keep up with the expectations of our current moment

· Recruiting the next generation of oil and gas leadership

· Empowering high-potential women in the workplace

Andrea Passman is the Chief Operating Officer at Caerus Oil and Gas, an investor in many conventional upstream oil and gas properties across western Colorado and eastern Utah. Before moving to her current leadership position in Colorado, she spent 6 years at CNX in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where she held numerous vice president roles until assuming the role of Sr. Vice President of Engineering and Operations. Prior to CNX, Andrea held senior leadership roles at Halliburton and Greenshale Energy. Andrea has an active civic life serving as a Colorado School of Mines President’s Council member and mentor, a University of Denver Crimson and Gold Society member, and a member of the Food Bank of the Rockies Operations Committee. Andrea holds an MBA from the University of Denver and a bachelor’s degree in Petroleum Engineering from Colorado School of Mines. Additionally, she has pursued further studies as part of 1 year study programs at Carnegie Mellon University’s Tepper School of Business and the Harvard Business School.

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[Interview recorded on May 25, 2021]

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Tisha Schuller welcomes Amy Harder to the Energy Thinks Podcast to discuss Amy’s new role with Breakthrough Energy Publishing after over a decade as a leading energy reporter.

Tisha and Amy sit down to discuss:

· The role journalism will play in the energy transition

· The consequences of a K-shaped economic recovery

· Identifying and lowering “green premiums” for clean energy

· Addressing energy justice in reporting

Amy Harder recently joined Breakthrough Energy as Vice President of Publishing to kick off a journalism initiative that will cover the opportunities and challenges of the energy transition. As a seasoned reporter on the energy beat, Amy has drawn a large following and is respected as a leading voice in energy journalism. She worked as a reporter for The Wall Street Journal before starting a regular energy column at Axios, Harder Line. A Pacific Northwest native, Amy holds a journalism degree from Western Washington University.

Episode Resources

· Axios. “To combat climate change, electric cars have to be cheaper”

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[Interview recorded on May 3, 2021]

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Tisha Schuller welcomes Matt Gallagher to the Energy Thinks Podcast to discuss Matt’s leadership vision for the oil and gas industry.

Tisha and Matt sit down to discuss:

· Gallagher’s proposed “Shale New Deal”

· Three shortcomings the oil and gas industry must address

· Gallagher’s new endeavor, Greenlake Energy Ventures

· Testing professional and personal values after a turbulent 2020

Matt is a third-generation oil man who was most recently President and CEO of Parsley Energy. After Pioneer Natural Resources bought Parsley Energy in 2020, Matt founded Greenlake Energy Ventures to invest in and develop reliable and affordable energy sources that also are sustainably operated. Matt serves on the Board of Directors for Pioneer Natural Resources and Chesapeake Energy Corporation. Matt holds a Petroleum Engineering degree from the Colorado School of Mines.

Episode Resources

· Wall Street Journal, “Young Shale CEO Asks Texas to Curb Oil Output as Coronavirus Cuts Prices.”

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[Interview recorded on April 21, 2021]

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Tisha Schuller welcomes Kristine Wiley to the Energy Thinks Podcast to explain what the emergence of hydrogen means for the energy future, and why this technology is a promising opportunity for the oil and gas industry.

Tisha and Kristine sit down to discuss:

· The role of hydrogen in a low-carbon economy

· How hydrogen fits in the existing natural gas value chain

· What is most important to developing hydrogen’s potential

· Overcoming the obstacles hydrogen presents

· What a city powered by hydrogen would look like

Kristine has spent the entirety of her career at the Gas Technology Institute (GTI) where she began as a scientist in 2002. Kristine was named Executive Director of GTI’s Hydrogen Technology Center in 2020 where she currently leads the Center’s efforts to develop public-private partnerships to leverage existing natural gas infrastructure to transition into a low-carbon future. She has extensive experience across GTI’s operations from methane detection, utility operations, and environmental compliance, to researching the future use of renewable natural gas (RNG) in current gas grids. Kristine holds an MBA from the Booth School of Business at the University of Chicago and a B.S. in Biological Sciences from the University of Chicago.

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[Interview recorded on April 14, 2021]

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Tisha Schuller welcomes Rose Mutiso to the Energy Thinks Podcast to discuss addressing energy poverty to meet human potential. They discuss the important and the unique considerations for Africa’s energy future in the context of global decarbonization.

Tisha and Rose sit down to discuss:

· Energy disparity in developing economies

· How decarbonization strategies must differ for developed and developing countries

· Empowering developing nations to prepare for climate adaptation

· The role of natural gas in sub-Saharan Africa

· Importance of bringing values into our working lives

Rose is the Research Director for The Energy for Growth Hub, connecting policy to effective pathways to a decarbonized, high-energy future. Additionally, Rose is the co-founder and CEO of the Mawazo Institute, a non-profit research center in Kenya that empower young African women to conduct climate research and launch successful careers. She is also a Senior Fellow in the Office of International Climate and Clean Energy at the U.S. Department of Energy. Rose is a leading voice in the empowering Africa to couple global decarbonization goals with providing the continent the energy potential it needs to continue economic growth. Rose has spoken in various TED Talks about addressing energy poverty in Africa that are linked below. Rose holds a Ph.D. in Materials Science and Engineering from the University of Pennsylvania and a Bachelor’s degree in Engineering Sciences from Dartmouth College.

Episode Resources

· TED Talk (2020) “The energy Africa needs to develop – and fight climate change”

· TED Talk (2019) “How to bring affordable, sustainability electricity to Africa”

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[Interview recorded on April 7, 2021]

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Tisha Schuller welcomes Anne Carto, Director of Client Strategy and Sustainability at Adamantine Energy, to the Energy Thinks podcast for a dive into the increasing pressure on oil and gas companies of all sizes to address ESG.

Tisha and Anne discuss:

· The 4 reasons to address ESG now

· Where to start your company’s ESG strategy

· Common mistakes that should be avoided

Anne is the Director of Client Strategy and Sustainability for Adamantine Energy and brings unique experience ranging from regulatory navigation to stakeholder relations. Anne consults up-, mid-, and downstream oil and gas companies on their ESG strategies and how to best navigate uneasy social, political, and regulatory environments for Adamantine. Anne has held positions with the Colorado Oil and Gas Association and the Ohio Oil and Gas Association and is a graduate of Ohio University.

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[Interview recorded on March 18, 2021]

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Tisha Schuller welcomes Ajay Mehta, General Manager of Shell New Energies Research & Technology, to the Energy Thinks podcast as part of her discussions with game-changing leaders.

Tisha and Ajay discuss:

· The many reasons oil and gas can be optimistic about the energy transition

· Shell’s ever-growing strategic alliance with Microsoft

· Challenges and growing potential for CCUS

· Incubation of low-carbon solutions

· How to keep personal values front-and-center in 2021

Ajay has spent nearly 25 years with Shell. He has worked in areas spanning from E&P to methane hydrates. Ajay is a board member of the MIT Sustainability Institute and holds numerous other leadership positions at Rice University, UCLA, and the University of Houston. Additionally, Ajay has been honored as a Distinguished Lecturer for the Society of Petroleum Engineers. Ajay holds a PhD in Chemical Engineering from the Colorado School of Mines, an MBA from MIT, and a Bachelor’s degree in Chemical Engineering from India’s National Institute of Technology Karnataka.

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[Interview recorded on February 19, 2021]

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Tisha Schuller sat down with Dominic Emery, Chief of Staff to CEO Bernard Looney at bp, on the Energy Thinks Podcast to discuss game-changing leadership.

Tisha and Dominic cover:

· What it’s like to work for bp’s new, young, and dynamic CEO

· The kind of culture change required to accompany the transition to a net-zero, integrated energy company

· Which innovation areas show promise

· If we are investing enough in oil and gas exploration globally

· How Dominic’s leadership style is evolving in real time

Dominic Emery is the Chief of Staff to CEO Bernard Looney at bp and has been with the company since 1986. Currently based in London, Dominic has worked across an array of business areas including E&P, alternative energies, and gas and power. Dominic is a board member for the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI) and was the founding CEO of OGCI Climate Investments—a $1B fund set up by oil and gas companies to invest in technologies and projects to reduce climate emissions. Dominic holds a PhD in Geology/Earth Sciences from the University of Cambridge and a M.A. in Geology/Earth Sciences from the University of Oxford.

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[Interview recorded on February 19, 2021]

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Tisha Schuller welcomes Joseph Majkut, Director of Climate Policy at the Niskanen Center in Washington, D.C.

Majkut characterizes himself as both a political moderate and a climate hawk. In today’s episode, Majkut makes the case for a carbon tax and gives his perspective on why it is in the oil and gas industry’s interest to start leading the discussion.

The world is heading directionally toward net-zero emissions. The time to “wait-it-out” has passed.

In this episode, we dive into:

· The political state of play around a carbon tax

· If bipartisan climate policy is a pipe dream

· Whether a carbon tax can address environmental justice

Also, listen in to hear about Majkut’s big idea on decarbonization he pitched via Twitter to Jeff Bezos.

Joseph Majkut is the Director of Climate Policy at the Niskanen Center in Washington, D.C. and is a respected expert in climate science and climate policy. Majkut publishes numerous research articles for the Niskanen Center and prior to his present role, he has worked as a Congressional Science Fellow for the U.S. Senate. Majkut holds a PhD in Atmospheric and Oceanic Science from Princeton, a M.S. in Applied Mathematics from Delft University of Technology, and a B.S. in Mathematics from Harvey Mudd College.

Episode Resources

· Niskanen Center Bio and Published Articles

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[Interview recorded on February 8, 2021]

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