Entangled Health with Thomas Ehmer | Quantum Biology, Consciousness & the Future of Medicine

Entangled Health with Thomas Ehmer is a long-form podcast and research-media project exploring quantum biology, quantum computing, AI, biotechnology, consciousness research, and the future of medicine.
We distinguish established evidence, emerging research, and frontier hypotheses.
Quantum computing meets real‑world risk in this wide‑ranging conversation with Sergio Gago, CTO at Cloudera, serial entrepreneur, guitarist, and the community’s “quantum pirate,” exploring how financial risk models and AI agents could transform public health and decision‑making. Drawing on his journey from typing BASIC games off cassette magazines to selling a machine‑learning news analytics startup to Moody’s, Sergio explains how he learned to extract real signal from noisy data and why explainability still matters when markets and patients depend on your models. You dig into how credit‑risk thinking, Monte Carlo simulations, and quantum computing might apply to hospital capacity planning, stochastic disease trajectories, and drug development without promising magic “quantum advantage” where it doesn’t yet exist.

The episode also looks closely at AI agents as future digital colleagues: where they can give CEOs and clinicians “Jiminy Cricket on your shoulder” superpowers, and where ontology, governance, and sovereignty become non‑negotiable. From embodied AI robots feeding patients and supporting lonely elders, to enterprise agents that actually understand roles, permissions, and tacit company knowledge, you stay anchored in what’s operationally and ethically plausible rather than hype. Along the way, Sergio shares how music, curiosity, and surrounding yourself with people who are smarter than you keep his beginner’s mind alive inside large organizations.

• 02:10 Sergio’s hacker origin story and first failed company

• 11:45 From news analytics to credit‑risk at Moody’s

• 22:30 Quantum finance, quants, and risk models

• 34:10 Applying quantum and AI agents to healthcare systems

• 48:05 Governance, EU AI Act, and sovereign AI

• 58:00 Curiosity, the “quantum pirate,” and staying brave

Sergio Gago, CTO at Cloudera and serial entrepreneur known in the quantum community as the Quantum Pirate, built his first company at 17, sold one to Moody's, and has been applying financial risk modeling logic to AI agents and quantum health ever since. His central argument: the difference between a doctor and an AI-empowered doctor is the same as the difference between a CEO with and without a Jiminy Cricket on their shoulder. Taking a proof-of-concept agent into enterprise-grade production is where almost everyone gets it wrong — and he's spent years figuring out exactly why.

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Guest: Sergio Gago
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sergiogh/
Newsletter (The Quantum Pirate): https://quantumpirates.substack.com/

Sergio's hacking mindset: from typing snake games off Amstrad cassette tape magazines and discovering that changing one variable gives you infinite lives, to shaping enterprise AI at Cloudera. The "ottoman decision method" — a curiosity-driven experiment for making big life decisions — came up and deserves to be tried. The AI agents in production discussion covers why deploying agents is less a technical problem than an HR one, and what Moody's-style risk modeling actually looks like when applied to health systems.

Our joint gig at quantum.tech Twickenham 2024:
Final Teenspirit (Final Countdown meets Teen Spirit, original by WaxAudio): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWwLkd-k0Yc

Entangled Health on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/entangled-health-podcast
Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/

Disclaimer: All conversations at Entangled Health are a co-creation between host and guest in their personal capacities. Nothing here is an official statement from any employer or organization, nor medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your own health.

Entangled Health with Thomas Ehmer is a long-form podcast and research-media project exploring quantum biology, quantum computing, AI, biotechnology, consciousness research, and the future of medicine.
We distinguish established evidence, emerging research, and frontier hypotheses.
Dr. Dean Radin, Chief Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, has spent four decades running some of the most rigorous psi experiments on the planet — double-slit trials influenced by human intention, RNG studies, and now a CRISPR-based startup targeting 5-HT2A receptors. His position is precise: you can be a hardcore empiricist and still find the data on mind-matter interaction compelling. Whether AI could ever demonstrate something genuinely psychic — and what that would mean for medicine — is where the conversation ends.

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Guest: Dr. Dean Radin
Website: https://www.deanradin.com/
Institute of Noetic Sciences: https://noetic.org

Dean's path: concert violin → Bell Labs electrical engineering → Princeton anomalies research → US government Stargate program → IONS. The double-slit experiment with human observers has now been replicated in five of six independent labs. The CRISPR startup targeting 5-HT2A receptors for anxiety and memory is where the consciousness research meets clinical application. His forthcoming book is The Science of Magic.

Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/

Disclaimer: All conversations at Entangled Health are a co-creation between host and guest in their personal capacities. Nothing here is an official statement from any employer or organization, nor medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your own health.

Entangled Health with Thomas Ehmer is a long-form podcast and research-media project exploring quantum biology, quantum computing, AI, biotechnology, consciousness research, and the future of medicine.
We distinguish established evidence, emerging research, and frontier hypotheses.

Gabriela Cimpan, Technical Business Development Lead at Quantinuum, knows the biggest challenge in quantum drug discovery isn't the hardware — it's separating what's genuinely possible today from what remains a promise. Her path from analytical chemistry research to the front lines of GenQAI applications in pharma runs through a hard-won clarity about what quantum chemistry can and cannot currently deliver. What a GenQAI feedback loop makes tractable in molecular design — and what classical computers will never reach — is where the conversation gets real.

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Guest: Gabriela Cimpan
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielacimpan/

The episode covers personalized health interdependencies, the state of quantum error correction in drug discovery contexts, and what "entangled health" means to someone who works daily at the interface of quantum hardware and pharma pipelines. Gabriela also discusses Quantinuum's Quantum Origin, the first NIST-validated quantum random number generator.

Quantinuum Quantum Origin (NIST-validated QRNG): https://www.quantinuum.com/press-releases/quantinuums-quantum-origin-becomes-first-software-quantum-random-number-generator-to-achieve-nist-validation

Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/

Disclaimer: All conversations at Entangled Health are a co-creation between host and guest in their personal capacities. Nothing here is an official statement from any employer or organization, nor medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your own health.

Entangled Health with Thomas Ehmer is a long-form podcast and research-media project exploring quantum biology, quantum computing, AI, biotechnology, consciousness research, and the future of medicine.
We distinguish established evidence, emerging research, and frontier hypotheses.
Samarth Sandeep, CEO of If and Only If Technologies, is applying quantum hybrid AI and QAOA-based protein interaction modeling to drug discovery problems that classical simulation still can't solve with sufficient accuracy. His work sits at the exact junction where quantum chemistry meets wet-lab biology — and where the gap between a simulation result and a meaningful clinical outcome is still enormous. He's also quietly restoring native plant gardens, which turns out to be more connected to his quantum worldview than it first sounds.

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Guest: Samarth Sandeep
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samarth-sandeep-81a02487/
Company: https://iff.bio
California Native Garden Foundation: https://cngf.org

Samarth's journey: from seawater-powered cars to QAOA protein pruning, with a detour through rare hematological malignancies. The native plant restoration work — microplastics, soil microbiome, environmental entanglement — turns out to be the same problem as drug discovery at a different scale.

Papers mentioned:
Aramyan et al. (2022) — SP-A binding to SARS-CoV-2 spike protein via QAOA-based MaxCut, Frontiers in Immunology 13:945317
Montanez-Barrera et al. (2025) — Evaluating QPU performance, arXiv:2502.06471
Yan, Samarth et al. (2022) — Proteomic framework for rare hematological malignancies, American Journal of Hematology

Timestamps:
0:00 Cold open: The garden that changed everything
2:00 Host welcome & episode preview
5:00 Samarth's journey: From seawater cars to quantum biotech
12:00 Native plants & microplastics: The environmental connection
22:00 Quantum algorithms for protein interactions
35:00 Quantum vs. LLMs: The biotech industry paradox
48:00 QAOA protein pruning explained
58:00 Quantum-selected listener question
1:04:00 Future of quantum in drug discovery
1:08:00 Closing thoughts

Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/

Disclaimer: All conversations at Entangled Health are a co-creation between host and guest in their personal capacities. Nothing here is an official statement from any employer or organization, nor medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your own health.

Entangled Health with Thomas Ehmer is a long-form podcast and research-media project exploring quantum biology, quantum computing, AI, biotechnology, consciousness research, and the future of medicine.
We distinguish established evidence, emerging research, and frontier hypotheses.
John Barnes, founder and CEO of Entangled Positions and UK President of OneQuantum, has consistently placed more women and ethnic minorities in quantum roles than any diversity policy he's ever been handed — not by following quotas, but by treating every candidate as an individual. His argument is that the quantum ecosystem was built by people who genuinely care, and the real risk now is absorbing the worst habits of older industries as it scales. The question he added to the pool: who do you most want to benefit from your work — and why do so few people answer beyond humanity?

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Guest: John Barnes
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/entangled/
Company: https://eptalent.tech/

John has been placing quantum talent since 2014 — before most of the industry had a job title for it. Two-thirds of his placements are women or ethnic minorities, not through quota systems but by removing the structural barriers that filter them out before the interview. The episode goes into what those barriers actually look like, and why randomised trial logic from clinical research applies directly to hiring.

Limited edition polo shirt: https://entangledhealth.etsy.com/listing/4333318961

Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/

Disclaimer: All conversations at Entangled Health are a co-creation between host and guest in their personal capacities. Nothing here is an official statement from any employer or organization, nor medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your own health.

Entangled Health with Thomas Ehmer is a long-form podcast and research-media project exploring quantum biology, quantum computing, AI, biotechnology, consciousness research, and the future of medicine.
We distinguish established evidence, emerging research, and frontier hypotheses.

Dr. Clarice D. Aiello, quantum engineer, professor at UCLA, and founder of the Quantum Biology Ecosystem, studies how magnetic fields interact with living cells — and her research is quietly dismantling the assumption that quantum effects are irrelevant to biology at body temperature. From electromagnetic therapy to nature's own quantum sensors, the gap between what physics says is possible and what medicine currently uses is enormous. Whether the radical sensitivity of quantum sensors will reach the clinic before the theoretical debate is settled is the race she's watching most closely.

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Guest: Dr. Clarice D. Aiello
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claricedaiello/
Website: https://quantumbiology.org
Quantum literacy courses: https://qubitbyqubit.org

Magnetic field effects in biology (5 review papers): https://bit.ly/MFEbiology
The tadpole experiment paper: https://bit.ly/tadpolepaper

The tadpole study — 3,000 tadpoles, controlled magnetic field exposure — is the concrete demonstration of how far quantum biology has moved beyond speculation. Clarice also makes the case for why "quantum wellness apps" represent a real epistemological problem, not just marketing noise.

Timestamps:
0:00 Cold open
2:30 Host welcome & guest introduction
5:00 From quantum engineering to quantum biology
12:00 The 3,000 tadpole magnetic field experiment
20:00 Your cells as quantum sensors
28:00 Electromagnetic therapy and "quantum apps"
38:00 Why Western medicine ignored magnetic field therapy
45:00 Founding the Quantum Biology Institute
52:00 Quantum-selected listener question
58:00 Future of electromagnetic medicine
1:01:00 Closing thoughts

Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/

Disclaimer: All conversations at Entangled Health are a co-creation between host and guest in their personal capacities. Nothing here is an official statement from any employer or organization, nor medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your own health.

The Quantum Dragon — inspired by Brian Siegelwax, who calls himself the "second least qualified person in quantum computing" — applies a beginner's mind to quantum biology, consciousness research, and the precise problem of why the most interesting fields attract both breakthrough science and spectacular nonsense. What it actually takes to stay genuinely curious when the hype cycle moves faster than the peer review process is the question the Dragon was built to answer. Whether confusion is a weakness or the beginning of real discovery is what this episode is about.

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Guest: Brian Siegelwax (as the Quantum Dragon)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-siegelwax/
Newsletter: https://bsiegelwax.substack.com/
LinkedIn Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-quantum-dragon-iqt-news-7324100852430897153/

Brian describes himself as the "second least qualified person in quantum computing" — and that's precisely the lens that makes this conversation different. The episode explores where genuine quantum biology ends and quantum-flavoured storytelling begins, and why maintaining a beginner's mind is harder than it sounds once you know enough to be dangerous.

Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/

Disclaimer: All conversations at Entangled Health are a co-creation between host and guest in their personal capacities. Nothing here is an official statement from any employer or organization, nor medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your own health.

Physicist Sadegh Ebrahimi explains why quantum sensing, not quantum computing, is healthcare's true silent revolution — and how it could let us sense consciousness, biofields, and even communicate with nature itself.
In this founding episode of Entangled Health, Sadegh Ebrahimi shares his journey from Iran to pioneering atomic-level diagnostics at the GSI Helmholtz Centre, revealing how quantum sensors detect biomarkers with unprecedented precision for non-invasive early disease detection. The conversation moves from hard physics into biofield science, consciousness research, and the philosophical humility required to explore what current science can't yet explain.

TRANSCRIPT: https://share.transistor.fm/s/61423ae6/transcript.txt
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FAQ: Sensing the Unseen — with Sadegh Ebrahimi
Who is Sadegh Ebrahimi?
Sadegh Ebrahimi is a physicist and quantum sensing pioneer who studied physics in Iran before moving to Germany, where he worked on ion trap experiments at the GSI Helmholtz Centre in Darmstadt and later pioneered quantum sensing projects in industry, including work with nitrogen-vacancy (NV) centers in diamonds.

What is quantum sensing, and how is it different from quantum computing?
Quantum sensing uses a single quantum entity, such as a photon, electron, or proton, to measure physical parameters with extreme precision at atomic and subatomic scales. Unlike quantum computing, which tries to eliminate noise, quantum sensing treats certain noise as signal, and it already underlies mature technologies like atomic clocks, GPS and GNSS systems, and MRI machines.

Why does Sadegh Ebrahimi call quantum sensing healthcare's "silent revolution"?
He argues that replacing electrical measurement with magnetic measurement, for example detecting the heart's or brain's magnetic fields instead of relying on ECG or bulky SQUID devices, will enable smaller, non-invasive wearables that shift medicine from reactive treatment toward preventive and predictive health.

What does the episode say about biofield science and biophotons?
Sadegh and host Thomas Ehmer discuss published research on detecting biophotons and biofield interactions, historically dismissed as unmeasurable, and argue that advancing sensor sensitivity may soon allow scientific validation of phenomena long described in ancient wisdom traditions, such as the concept of an aura.

Does this episode cover consciousness research?
Yes. The conversation discusses the historical dismissal of consciousness researchers like Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff, the renewed scientific interest in consciousness driven by AGI research, and open questions about whether consciousness or matter is fundamental.

What is The Telepathy Tapes, and why is it mentioned in this episode?
The Telepathy Tapes is a podcast documenting apparent communication abilities in non-verbal autistic individuals. Sadegh cites it as an example of a taboo topic gaining mainstream scientific attention once it entered popular culture, using it to argue for greater openness toward unconventional evidence.

What is the Entangled Health Question Pool?
It is a recurring segment where listener-submitted questions are selected using a quantum algorithm run on real IBM quantum hardware (in this episode, ibm_brisbane), and the guest also contributes and answers their own question live.

Who is Neri Oxman, and why is she referenced in this episode?
Neri Oxman is an American-Israeli researcher and designer referenced for her work on human-nature communication and material ecology, including the widely cited statistic that man-made material mass now exceeds Earth's total biomass.

What is the four-act structure of this episode?
Act 1 covers Sadegh's personal origin story from Iran to Germany, Act 2 focuses on quantum sensing technology and values, Act 3 explores philosophical reflections on wholeness and detection, and Act 4 envisions the future of connection between humans, nature, and consciousness.

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Guest: Sadegh Ebrahimi
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebrahimi-de/

Resources mentioned:
Publication: https://arxiv.org/abs/1611.02427
Podcast mentioned: https://thetelepathytapes.com

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Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/

#QuantumSensing #QuantumBiology #FutureOfMedicine #ConsciousnessResearch #QuantumComputing #HealthTech #Biofield #PreventiveMedicine

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Entangled Health is a podcast about what happens when quantum science, AI, biotech, and human consciousness stop being separate fields. Host Thomas Ehmer brings together pioneers, researchers, and rebels at the boundaries of medicine — and hands part of the show to a real quantum algorithm running on live hardware, which picks which listener question gets answered on air. The question pool grows with every guest. Your question could be next.

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Submit a question to the quantum pool: https://www.linkedin.com/company/entangled-health-podcast
Host on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tehmer/
Newsletter: https://thomasehmer1.substack.com/

Disclaimer: All conversations at Entangled Health are a co-creation between host and guest in their personal capacities. Nothing here is an official statement from any employer or organization, nor medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding your own health.