If you’ve been listening to this program for any length of time, you know I have a heart for Christian entrepreneurs who are making a difference. A difference in the community and a difference in the Body of Christ.

Many pastors are facing financial issues, especially in this era of trying to return from the COVID lockdowns, etc. Many of these ministers are contemplating actually leaving the ministry in order to find work that will provide for their families and their future as well.

That is one of the main reasons I enjoy sharing information with you from entrepreneurs who have a heart for maintaining Christian morals and values and have that reflected in their business.

Having said that, I believe you are going to truly be blessed by our guests today. Jon Sanders and Les Hughes are the co-founders of “EntrePastors,” which helps pastors to think and thrive as prosperous entrepreneurs. Through their podcasts, a membership community and mastermind groups, EntrePastors provides the tools and community of support to help pastors and minsters – and others with a ministry background, achieve financial freedom and free up their time and to escape the stressful “paycheck to paycheck” life that often accompanies vocational ministry.

Jon and Less have come together to empower pastors to maximize their God-given talents and to take better care of their families and to become better pastors in the process.

Let’s jump back into the conclusion of this interview now, with Jon Sanders and Les Hughes, of Entre Pastors…

Do  you believe the era of “full time pastors” is coming to an end? Are things that bad out there?

If someone has been in the ministry or pastorship for, let’s say 10 or 15 years, do they have the skill sets that can be of some value in the marketplace right now?

I know you advocate diversification of income streams. Can you share with us some of the benefits, not just of pastors, but in reality, almost everyone listening to us as well?

Is it OK for a pastor to be independently wealthy and financially secure?

I’m sure some pastors are thinking something like, “If I have this extra income coming in from this outside business, and we have some type of financial need come up in the ministry and I ask people to help, they’ll feel like, “You got the money, you take care of it.”"  Is this an issue with some of your clients?

What are some of the ways a pastor can launch their own business?

I think they would have to be careful of the “network marketing” activities out there. It could be seen as some type of coercion or something. Am I correct?

Let’s say a pastor or ministry professional does start their own side business – and it becomes extremely successful.  Where can they go to share that win? If they start sharing their success with church members, I can see some parishioners come calling, asking for handouts and things like that. I know they would be generous with their finances – that’s just part of our value system in the ministry. But how can they celebrate their victories without it causing additional hardships and problems within the church?

Gentlemen, this has been so...