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  • Ask the Better Question with Kevin Elworth (#201)

    In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les have a conversation with pastor, business coach, and leadership expert Kevin Elworth.  Kevin unpacks a powerful principle that, “Your future is designed by the questions you’re willing to answer.”  Often in our lives and ministries, we find ourselves experiencing less than amazing results because we’ve been asking less than amazing questions.  If we learn to ask better questions we will get better answers.  Kevin offers up an example of this principle by posing the better question he began wrestling with as a pastor and that is, “where does our money/income come from?”  He shares his story of the journey he’s been on to rethink the traditional model of full-time pastoring that needlessly requires a pastor to be 100% financially dependent upon a church that is not able to adequately support him and his family.  

    Guest Info/Links:

    • Website: https://www.pastorsthriving.com 

    Call to Action:

    • Get the ‘Wisdom for Pastors from Dan Miller’ course for $48
      • https://www.entrepastors.com/wisdom 



    59 min
  • Are You Willing to Pay the Price for Your Freedom? (#200)

    On this special Independence Day episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we pause for a moment to not only celebrate our nation’s independence, but to recognize the reality that many people are still living in bondage in a free society…even pastors!  The truth is we encounter pastors every week who are trapped in a system of pastoral poverty and often do not see a way out of it.  In this episode Jon shares some interesting correlations between the price our founding fathers had to pay for our freedoms and the similar investments we must make if we desire to break free from pastoral poverty.

    Call to Action:

    • Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide 
      • https://www.entrepastors.com/start 




    17 min
  • Blending Ministry and Business Success with Devin Schubert (#199)

    On this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes dive into a rich conversation with their guest, Devin Schurbert.  Devin shares his extraordinary journey of faith, fatherhood, and entrepreneurship.

    From adoption to creating successful youth ministries and multi-million-dollar businesses, Devin’s path is nothing short of inspiring. He opens up about his dissatisfaction with traditional church settings, which led him to build a vibrant youth ministry at the local YMCA, and how these experiences set the stage for his entrepreneurial success.

    This conversation will explore the intertwining of ministry and business, emphasizing the importance of pastors taking their calling beyond church walls for financial stability and broader impact. Devin reveals how a miraculous healing spurred him to start a coaching business aimed at aligning faith with entrepreneurship. They also talk about Devin's books, "Authenticity Today" and "One Rung Away," his ministry to foster care and adopted children, and the crucial need for trauma-informed approaches in ministry.

    Join us as we explore Devin’s insights on financial freedom, the purpose-driven life, and the shift in kingdom finances through entrepreneurship and media. Plus, stay tuned for tips on leveraging social media for influence and information on Devin's free guide to effective social media use. This is an episode packed with wisdom, practical advice, and a heartfelt commitment to uplifting communities through faith-driven entrepreneurship. 

    Guest Info/Links:

    • https://guidetoinfluence.com/ 

    Call to Action:

    • Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide 
      • https://www.entrepastors.com/start 
    36 min
  • The Problem with “Just Have Faith” (#198)

    How often have you heard the phrase, “Just have faith,” in regards to pastors and their financial situation?  In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les talk about this often-used cliche and some of the underlying problems with it.  Even though at first blush this advice sounds very spiritual, there are many other variables to consider when it comes to pastors and their financial wellbeing.  Should we place our faith in God for our ultimate supply and provision?  Of course!  But that’s only part of the equation.  If you’re a pastor who's ever felt frustrated by someone implying you should just continue on in financial lack and scarcity and simply, “just have faith,” this conversation will be an encouragement to you.

    Call to Action:

    • Check out our new resource:  Wisdom for Pastors from Dan Miller
      • https://www.entrepastors.com/wisdom 
    33 min
  • From Pastoral Ministry to Behavioral Health with Trevor Hislop (#197)

    In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we're thrilled to dive deep into the inspiring journey of Trevor Hislop, a former pastor who transitioned into the entrepreneurial world of mental health care. Join hosts Jon Sanders and Les Hughes as they explore how Trevor founded LiveWell Behavioral Health to address crucial gaps in community mental health services. With a remarkable team of 29 providers and 37 staff members, LiveWell offers comprehensive care for individuals, couples, families, and communities.

    We'll hear about Trevor's personal story, influenced by his parents' divorce at a young age, leading him to pursue a career in counseling and therapy. Despite an 18-year tenure in various pastoral roles, including creative arts and executive positions, Trevor felt a calling towards vocational care, ultimately steering him to establish LiveWell. The conversation also touches on the complex topic of pastors transitioning from church ministry to marketplace roles, the challenges of identity struggles, and the importance of “holy restlessness”.

    Listen in as we uncover Trevor's transition journey, the role of mentorship, and his current work with PastorServe, providing crisis care and coaching for ministry leaders. Whether you're a pastor considering a new season or someone interested in the intersection of faith and entrepreneurship, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration.

    Guest Info/Links:

    • Website for Livewell Behavioral Health: https://www.livewellbehavioralhealth.com/
    • Website for PastorServe: https://pastorserve.org/
    • Email: [email protected] 


    Call to Action:

    • Register for our upcoming webinar: Conquering Pastoral Poverty
      • https://www.entrepastors.com/conquer 



    42 min
  • Finding Your Authentic Voice with Rob Wentz (#196)

    In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, we are excited to have Rob Wentz join us in a dynamic conversation about leadership coaching and effective communication. Rob, a seasoned leadership coach with 20 years of experience in radio broadcasting, sheds light on his journey from struggling with self-expression to becoming a communication expert. He shares insightful strategies on transforming personal struggles into powerful messages, the importance of authenticity, and how faith has guided him through life's transitions.

    Guest Info/Links:

    • Website: https://www.leadimpacttransform.com/ 


    Call to Action:

    • Register for our upcoming webinar: Conquering Pastoral Poverty
      • https://www.entrepastors.com/conquer 



    55 min
  • Helping Others Walk in Continuous Peace with Dawn Marasco (#195)

    In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon and Les sit down with Dawn Marasco to talk about the ministry/business she is building as she is serving others who are in need of deep healing like God has done for her.  Dawn shares her powerful story of how God met her at a place of deep pain and trauma in her past and brought healing and wholeness into her life.  Dawn is now on a mission to share the hope, freedom, and peace that only Jesus can truly give as she is growing her online platform.  Dawn is a great example of what we call the Information-Based Pathway at EntrePastors, which is where you build a business around a core message and develop one or multiple streams of income as you serve others through that message.

    Guest Info/Links:

    • Website: https://www.dawnmarasco.com/ 
    • Resource GUIDE:  https://www.dawnmarasco.com/guide
    •  Email:  [email protected]

    Call to Action:

    • Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guide https://www.entrepastors.com/start 
    43 min
  • Pastoring in the Marketplace with Greg Reed (#194)

    In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon talks with returning guest Greg Reed about his journey from pastoring to an incredible new season of ministry called “workplace life coaching.” With over four decades of pastoral ministry experience and a passion for reaching others, Greg transitioned to a workplace life coach role, bringing faith into the marketplace. From car dealerships to Coca-Cola distribution sites, he's impacting lives and boosting business environments. Learn how he's turning ministry into a thriving business model and get inspired by his story of faith, mentoring, and real success in corporate America. 

    Guest Info/Links:

    Call to Action:

    • Register to obtain certification and credentialing as a Workplace Life Coach through the Life Celebration Institute:  https://lifecelebrationinstitute.com/workplacelifecoach.html 
    52 min
  • Entrepreneurship and Ministry with Danny Holwerda (#193)

    In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon Sanders and Les Hughes have an incredible conversation with Pastor Danny Holwerda. They talk about how pastors, with their unique people skills, can thrive in business. Danny shares his journey of balancing ministry, entrepreneurship, and overcoming financial struggles while maintaining a heart of service. From acquiring businesses to writing a book on overcoming sexual temptation, Danny’s story is a testament to resilience and faith and is a great example of what it looks like to thrive as an entrepastor. 

    Guest Info/Links:


    Call to Action:

    • Register for Ghostwriter School webinar:  entrepastors.com/ghostwriter




    47 min
  • Do Pastors Lack the Grit to be Entrepreneurs? with Joshua Brown (#192)

    In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast Jon and Les welcome back returning guest Joshua Brown…aka “The Pressure Washing Pastor,” to wrestle with the question of whether or not pastors lack the grit to make good entrepreneurs.  Joshua unpacks some of his thoughts about how the traditional model of vocational ministry has helped to reinforce a spirit of dependency and complacency that makes it hard for some pastors to do the work of an entrepreneur.  At first glance this might not seem to be that big of a deal, but as you will hear in this conversation, when pastors become reluctant to lean into the work ethic required for entrepreneurialism, they often struggle to engage people in the marketplace as a part of their ministries. Furthermore, dependency upon a church for a pastor’s complete financial wellbeing is almost a guaranteed path to staying stuck in pastoral poverty and failing to provide a more significant stream of income for their families.  

    Guest Info/Links:

    • Website: https://www.pressurewashingpastor.com/ 


    Call to Action:

    • Reserve a limited seat for our EntrePastors Business Builders Open House on May 15, 2024 at 9:00 am CST.  Send Jon an email at [email protected] to claim your spot.



    1 hr 1 min

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