So, we try a cold open for the first time and would love to know what you think of it. In the actual episode, Bob & Kevin have an interesting conversation about how much learning is required to be a developer today and where code camps fit into the equation. Kevin found some pretty expensive camps with some pretty big promises. We cover some interesting aspects of development and the various levels of knowledge that it might take to get specific tasks down. Well rounded or specialized... we discuss it all!