David Sax is a journalist and an author who’s written about a ton of different things, but his most recent book, The Soul of an Entrepreneur is all about the way that small businesses don’t just drive the economy but also really knit our communities together.

It’s a look at entrepreneurship that’s really far from the Silicon Valley kind of myth, the Silicon Valley sort of ethos of scaling and user growth.

The way I think about it is, it’s not move fast and break things, it’s more like, move fast and bake things. In his book, he profiles lots of really interesting businesses and the way that they also help communities of color, particularly immigrants, arriving in a new place really get their feet under them and create something that helps them rewrite and redefine their stories.

David is also an entrepreneur whose book launched smack in the middle of the Coronavirus lockdown. We talk about what that’s like and what it’s like to adapt to all the changes that COVID-19 has brought. So, without further ado, I hope you very much enjoy.