In this episode, Cody has a conversation with Evan Philips, the creator and host of The Firn Line, a podcast about the lives of mountain climbers. Evan's path to becoming the storyteller he is today began when he was a teenager learning the basics of a sport that would, in time, define him. He was an avid mountain climber as a teenager and well into adulthood until a recurring injury led to multiple surgeries, which inevitably meant climbing less and less. They talk about how mountain climbing is inherently dangerous and reconciling that with the desire to pursue it, making meaningful and healthy changes in your life, and what it's like to interview people you look up to.  

They also talk about Evan's upcoming true crime podcast, Alaska Unsolved, which focuses on the disappearance of Erin Marie Gilbert, who vanished from a festival in Girdwood, Alaska on July 1, 1995.