What does it take to scale design across one of the largest Belgian company? Where do you start? How do you get support from your stakeholders? For this episode, we sat down with Raphaël Hombroeck, Design Ops manager at Proximus, and Arnaud Ostrowski, Design System Owner.

Together they have built the Proximus Design System that is being used everyday by 100+ designers and product specialists. Two years after their humble beginnings, they share with us the ups and downs of this exciting journey so far.