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For Designer Business is the podcast built by interior designers, for interior designers—hosted by Shayna Rose and Evelyn McDougall of 4Dbiz. We know firsthand what it’s like to juggle every role, and we’re here to share real talk and real solutions for building a sustainable design business.

In our debut episode, we open up about our own journey—from solo struggles and unexpected setbacks to the breakthroughs that shaped our business. You’ll hear how a life-changing accident, hiring missteps, and failed tech launches led us to embrace the power of delegation, strategic partnerships, and the “fractional team” model.

We dive into why building your business around processes (not just people) is essential, and how the right support at the right time can help you grow without burning out. Our stories and lessons are here to remind you: you’re not alone, and every challenge can become a stepping stone.

Ready to step out of survival mode and into your role as a confident business owner? Welcome to the community that gets it—and to the podcast that will help you build not just a beautiful business, but a thriving one.

Click to schedule your free consultation now and discover how 4Dbiz can help you reclaim your time and grow your business: