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 Join Shayna and Evelyn as they take you inside the dynamic, ever-evolving world of running a fast-growing interior design business—sharing the real talk on what it takes to lead, grow, and adapt behind the scenes.

In this episode, you’ll discover what it’s really like to navigate the emotional rollercoaster of entrepreneurship—from the flurry of new ideas and growth markers to the challenges of delegating, building systems, and balancing business with real life. Shayna and Evelyn get candid about the pressures of leadership, the struggle to let go of control, and the importance of trust and communication as your team grows.

Learn how to manage the anxiety that comes with rapid growth by creating routines, building reporting systems, and setting clear priorities. Plus, hear practical tips on delegating with confidence, setting boundaries, and finding support—whether you’re sprinting toward a big goal or just trying to keep your head above water.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the pace of your own ambition, or wondered how to balance business, family, and self-care, this episode offers honest encouragement, relatable stories, and actionable strategies to help you keep climbing—one growth marker at a time.

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Join Shayna and Evelyn as they take you behind the scenes of their recent appearance at  High Point Market for LuAnn Nigara’s Power Talk Friday Tour. They share their biggest “aha” moments, the energy of connecting with fellow interior designers, and the invaluable insights gained from a powerhouse panel of industry experts.

In this episode, you’ll hear how challenging old beliefs, embracing your unique leadership style, and setting healthy boundaries can transform your business and your life. Shayna and Evelyn break down lessons from the event—covering everything from building strong teams and refining your sales process to the importance of self-belief and mindset shifts on your entrepreneurial journey.

Whether you’re a seasoned designer or just starting out, this episode is packed with real talk, encouragement, and actionable advice to help you move forward towards your dreams.

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Join Shayna and Evelyn for a special Halloween edition of For Designer Business, as they pull back the curtain on the “Horrors of Design”—the real-life scares, surprises, and lessons learned from the wild world of running an interior design business.

In this episode, Shayna and Evelyn share their own spine-tingling stories, from panic-inducing tax notices and stolen team members, to catastrophic accidents and waterline mishaps that could haunt any business owner.

Learn how to protect yourself and your business by setting strong boundaries, having the right contracts and insurance in place, and building a team you can trust. Plus, hear practical tips on keeping your cool when things go sideways, delegating with confidence, and finding perspective when the “horrors” of business threaten to overwhelm.

Whether you’re facing your own business frights or just want to know you’re not alone, this episode offers honest encouragement, hard-won wisdom, and a reminder that every challenge is a chance to grow stronger. Welcome in the horrors—because with the right mindset and support, you can handle anything that comes your way.

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Join Shayna and Evelyn as they navigate “The Ebbs and Flows”—the unpredictable cycles that define life as a project-based design business owner.

In this episode, you’ll discover how to manage the emotional and financial ups and downs that come with fluctuating project volume, shifting client needs, and the challenges of growth. Shayna and Evelyn share their own experiences, from hustling for every lead to building strong partnerships and learning the value of consistent routines in networking, marketing, and operations.

Learn how to calm the anxiety of slow periods by understanding your numbers, diversifying your services, and building a resilient team. Plus, hear practical tips on letting go of control, communicating with clients, and using downtime to strengthen your business foundation—so you can ride the waves of business with confidence and clarity.

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Join Shayna and Evelyn as they take you on “The Foundational Journey”—an essential roadmap for interior designers who want to create lasting success from the ground up.

In this episode, you’ll discover why a strong foundation is the secret to sustainable growth, no matter where you are in your business. Shayna and Evelyn break down the step-by-step process of establishing your sales strategy, pricing model, client onboarding, and internal systems—so you can stop reinventing the wheel and start working smarter, not harder.

Learn how to streamline your client experience, delegate with confidence, and document your processes for seamless support and future growth. Plus, hear real stories and practical tips on balancing the demands of working in your business and on your business—without burning out.

Whether you’re just starting out or ready to level up, this episode will inspire you to stay consistent, embrace change, and remember: the journey never stops, but you don’t have to travel it alone.

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Join Shayna and Evelyn as they explore the “fractional model” and what it means for interior designers at every stage—whether you’re just getting started, looking to grow, or navigating the challenges that come with a busy business.

In this episode, you’ll hear real stories and expert insights on building your executive team, onboarding the right support, and navigating the three most common paths designers take to get the help they need.

Learn how to protect your profits, delegate with confidence, and leverage 4Dbiz’s unique technology to streamline your business—plus, discover why flexibility and accountability are at the heart of everything they do. Whether you need a full team or just a little extra help, this episode will inspire you to take control, embrace change, and remember: you don’t have to do it alone.

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Join Shayna and Evelyn as they unpack the “growth markers” every design business owner faces—from the first signs of overwhelm to building a team and developing core values that drive success.

Hear candid stories, actionable strategies, and expert advice on recognizing when it’s time to delegate, documenting your processes, setting boundaries, and leading with alignment, accountability, communication, consistency, team, and trust. Whether you’re a solo designer or scaling your business, this episode will inspire you to embrace challenges as opportunities for growth—and remind you that you don’t have to do it alone.

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Join Shayna, Evelyn, and special guest LuAnn Nigara as they discuss the “growth markers” that indicate when your design business is ready for its next big step.

Hear real stories, actionable strategies, and inspiration for stepping outside your comfort zone, building strong systems, and embracing the journey of business growth—plus, details on joining LuAnn at High Point for the Power Talk Friday Tour on 10/24/25.

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For Designer Business is the podcast built by interior designers, for interior designers—hosted by Shayna Rose and Evelyn McDougall of 4Dbiz. We know firsthand what it’s like to juggle every role, and we’re here to share real talk and real solutions for building a sustainable design business.

In our debut episode, we open up about our own journey—from solo struggles and unexpected setbacks to the breakthroughs that shaped our business. You’ll hear how a life-changing accident, hiring missteps, and failed tech launches led us to embrace the power of delegation, strategic partnerships, and the “fractional team” model.

We dive into why building your business around processes (not just people) is essential, and how the right support at the right time can help you grow without burning out. Our stories and lessons are here to remind you: you’re not alone, and every challenge can become a stepping stone.

Ready to step out of survival mode and into your role as a confident business owner? Welcome to the community that gets it—and to the podcast that will help you build not just a beautiful business, but a thriving one.

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For Designer Business is the podcast built by interior designers, for interior designers—because we know firsthand what it’s like to wear all the hats. Hosted by Shayna Rose and Evelyn McDougall of 4Dbiz, this show is where real talk meets real solutions. Together, we built 4Dbiz by tackling the same challenges you’re facing—client demands, overflowing to-do lists, and the constant question of how to actually grow without burning out.

Every episode, we share the lessons learned, the systems that work, and the stories that prove you’re not alone—from the tough setbacks to the game-changing breakthroughs. This isn’t just theory; it’s what we’ve lived, and what we’ve seen transform design businesses just like yours.

If you’re ready to step out of survival mode and into your role as a confident business owner—with more profit, more control, and more freedom—this is your place. Welcome to the community that gets it, and to the podcast that will help you build not just a beautiful business, but a sustainable one.