Leanne Betasamosake Simpson returns to discuss her new album Live Like the Sky, why people are so often air unaware, her book Theory of Water and how a world ending means a new one is beginning, the concept of generative refusal, lakes, oceans, skiing, running, and surfing, holding a tape recorder up to a car radio speaker to capture underground rock music in the 1980s and how those new wave and post-punk sounds inform this new record, learning to sing and making music that is fun even though the lyrics are heavy, touring, a new book, other future plans, and much more.

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