David Fuller, Niko Kapetan, Bailey Minzenberger, and Korgan Robb from Friko are here to discuss their new album, Something Worth Waiting For, the state of Illinois and dystopian literature, bonding in a high school music theory class, loving noise-infused pop bands like Pavement, the Breeders, and, from Liverpool, England, the Beatles, inspiration from local bands like Smut and the Felix Culpa, the story of Friko, articulating Niko’s songwriting talents as though he is not on this call with us, why numbers seem to be invoked so often on this album, why they worked with producer John Congleton and what makes him such a great “coach,” tour dates, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #1075: Bill Frisell

All Things Konsidered: The Beatles Anthology

Ep. #986: John Congleton

Ep. #984: Lifeguard

Ep. #951: Mark Ibold, Scott Kannberg, Jeffrey Lewis Clark, Jed I. Rosenberg & Brian Thalken on ‘Louder Than You Think: A Lo-Fi History of Gary Young and Pavement’

Ep. #933: Alex Ross Perry, Scott Kannberg, and Robert Greene on ‘Pavements’

Ep. #924: Lance Bangs and Bob Nastanovich on ‘Pavements’

Ep. #910: The Hard Quartet

Ep. #806: The Breeders

Ep. #677: Pavement

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Mike Belitsky and Travis Good from the Sadies and Dave ‘Billy Ray’ Koster are here to discuss Live at 6 O’Clock by Gord Downie, The Sadies, and the Conquering Sun, Billy’s long and all-encompassing tenure in the working lives of Downie and the Tragically Hip as a technical director and confidante, how the Sadies and Downie connected and why he was so fond of playing with them, a look back at Downie’s first solo album Coke Machine Glow and him asking Travis to play on it, Downie’s deep love for artists like Fucked Up and Daniel Romano, insights about this collaboration and what the late Gord Downie and Dallas Good may have felt about it, when Downie planned to run the stage light show himself, poignant reasons for picking songs about ghosts and sadness for this live record primarily consisting of songs by other artists, further insights into how the Tragically Hip viewed Downie’s work outside of the band, Downie’s penchant for incorporating conversations and experiences he shared with Billy into his lyrics, the story behind “Introduce Yerself,” whether we may hear more unreleased music by Downie and the potential for Sadie to make a new album, upcoming tour dates, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #1085: Richard Reed Parry

Ep. #1083: Rheostatics

Ep. #1082: Joe Pernice

Ep. #1071: Buck 65

Ep. #971: Change of Heart

Ep. #892: Fucked Up

Ep. #889: Rick White and The Sadies

Ep. #880: Guided By Voices

Ep. #842: Daniel Romano’s Outfit

Ep. #821: Kurt Vile

Ep. #744: Don Pyle

Ep. #590: Bob Young

Ep. #496: Iggy Pop

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Richard Reed Parry returns to discuss Were “The Watchtowers” by Dallas Good + Richard Reed Parry, his Skybarn recording studio, being a new dad and adjusting to life off the road, how he first got to know Dallas after they were randomly chosen to participate in a Dawson City Music Festival collaborative workshop, a shared love of the Everly Brothers and other key artists and records, instant friend crushes and a yearning to collaborate on music, how they wrote lyrics together in a shared, outdated daytimer, insights about how vocals and other recordings of Dallas were used posthumously, how the sessions for Colder Streams by the Sadies and the Watchtowers informed each other, a unique contribution by Neko Case and making an album with songs about the tragic loss of one of the creators of that same album, why it’s a Record Store Day exclusive, news about Richard’s other bands and pursuits, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #1082: Joe Pernice

Ep. #1049: Rebecca Foon and Aliayta Foon-Dancoes

Ep. #889: Rick White and The Sadies

Ep. #857: Michael Feuerstack

Ep. #815: Geordie Gordon

Ep. #805: La Force

Ep. #703: The Sadies

Ep. #669: Dallas Good Remembered

Ep. #485: Richard Reed Parry

Ep. #191: Buffy Sainte-Marie

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Janel Leppin returns to discuss her new solo album Slowly Melting and Pluto in Aquarius by Janel Leppin's Ensemble Volcanic Ash, her ability to compartmentalize her visual art impulses from her musical ones, why she frequently releases more than one album on the same day, how Susan Alcorn and David Lynch remain constant inspirations, an eye-opening Mdou Moctar tour, making protest jazz music in a politically volatile time, her compelling and dynamic use of the cello as a lead instrument in jazz expressions, her tribute to Deerhoof, why she employs fuzz and distortion, loving pedals and naming songs after different ones, upcoming shows, another new record, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #1069: The Messthetics and James Brandon Lewis

All Things Konsidered: The Beatles Anthology

Ep. #1003: Marissa Nadler

Ep. #975: Deerhoof

Ep. #919: Oren Ambarchi

Ep. #887: Janel and Anthony

Ep. #874: Mdou Moctar

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Dave Bidini and Dave Clark from Rheostatics are here to discuss The Great Lakes Suite, politics and tensions between the U.S.A. and Canada, contemporary protest music, what prompted this album’s concept and improvisational approach, featured contributions by Alex Lifeson from Rush, Kevin Hearn, Hugh Marsh, Tanya Tagaq, Laurie Anderson, Chief Stacey LaForme, Anne Carson, Liz Howard, Kendel Carson, Maiah Wynne, and Gord Downie, why Alex Lifeson was so blown away by Tanya Tagaq’s performance on this record, insights about Gord Downie’s posthumous appearance here telling a poetic story, Martin Tielli’s current status in Rheostatics, Alex Lifeson’s current status in Rheostatics, the excitingly unique way they plan to stage live shows to represent this album, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #1031: Leanne Betasamosake Simpson

Ep. #424: Dave Bidini

Ep. #332: Billy Bragg

Ep. #294: Don Kerr of Communism

Ep. #272: Gord Downie [Archival; May 2010]

Ep. #65: Tanya Tagaq

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Joe Pernice is here to discuss his excellent new album, Sunny, I Was Wrong, living in frigid Canada as a well-informed American, his obsession with bicycles and riding bikes, his close friendship with music writer Warren Zanes who penned lovely liner notes for this new record, being a dad and coaching baseball with some encouragement from Buck 65, writing music again after a substantial break and from a very honest, reflective perspective, why he chose to release a record under his own name, the killer studio band he assembled featuring Jim Creeggan, Mike Belitsky, and Mike Evin, bringing in very special guests like Aimee Mann, Norman Blake of Teenage Fanclub, Rodney Crowell, and Jimmy Webb, what will become of the large number of unreleased songs he wrote and recorded towards this album, upcoming shows, other future plans, and much more.

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Grandaddy’s Jason Lytle (2012) – Teaser

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Ep. #800: Buck 65

Ep. #703: The Sadies

Ep. #335: The Sadies on Long Night

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A.C. Newman returns to discuss The Former Site Of by the New Pornographers, life in New York State, playing more mandolin in his home recording studio, R.E.M. snobbery, not knowing about a nearby Dry Cleaning show, and understanding fans who come and go, songs about grieving and newfound flower expertise and songs people misunderstand, spirituality and social media, how the song “Calligraphy” references the 2025 arrest of the band’s former drummer on serious criminal charges, accepting loss, touring line-ups and upcoming shows, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #963: Destroyer

Ep. #954: Peter Ames Carlin on R.E.M.

Ep. #928: Verböten

Ep. #883: Steven Hyden

Ep. #877: Gastr del Sol

Ep. #763: The New Pornographers

Ep. #740: Dry Cleaning

Ep. #673: Sonic Youth

Ep. #609: Gang of Four

Ep. #159: Carl Newman of the New Pornographers

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My first interview with Bill Callahan took place over the telephone on March 31, 2011, ahead of the April 19 release of his album, Apocalypse. The interview was conducted for and broadcast on the Mich Vish Interracial Morning Show! on May 4, 2011, and also for a print magazine profile. Bill and I bonded over our shared love of The Larry Sanders Show among other things, which you can hear now. As usual with archival interviews presented here, this is a raw, unedited recording that reflects the actual experience shared between the interview subject and I on the day we spoke. The latest album by Bill Callahan is called My Days of 58, and it’s available now via Drag City Records.

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Ep. #480: Bill Callahan

Ep. #273: Mary Lynn Rajskub

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Charlotte Cornfield returns to discuss her new album Hurts Like Hell, living in Toronto after stints in Montreal and New York, how becoming a mother has altered her sense of self and her artistic perspective, notions of connection, teaching, and learning, how Lucinda Williams’ memoir impacted her relationship to narrative realities, talking about Neil Young, Zuma, and Tonight’s the Night, who the song “Lost Leader” might be about, recruiting special guest vocalists like Feist and Buck Meek, working with Merge Records, new songs, upcoming shows, and much more.

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Ep. #1070: Buck Meek

Ep. #1064: Aquakultre

Ep. #645: Charlotte Cornfield

Ep. #600: The Weather Station

Ep. #93: Ought

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Verity Susman and Matthew Simms from MEMORIALS are here to discuss their new album All Clouds Bring Not Rain, the confusing measurement units different countries use to track distances, the roles their respective fathers played in inspiring them to explore music, telling me what a boffin is, working on film scores and soundtracks, a helpful boost from Stereolab, the significance of the Susan Sontag Memorial Water Slide, touring with Holy Fuck, writing new music, other future plans, and much more.

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Ep. #1026: Tortoise

Ep. #1001: Thanya Iyer

Ep. #812: Michael Azerrad on ‘The Amplified Come As You Are – The Story of Nirvana’

Ep. #673: Sonic Youth

Ep. #519: Holy Fuck

Ep. #38: Krist Novoselic

Ep. #24: Steve Albini

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