Ed Kuepper and Jim White return to discuss their remarkable debut album, After the Flood, their recent Australian tour, when Ed played a show with Dirty Three in 1994 and became enamoured with Jim’s playing, the massive role Ed’s bands played in Jim’s development as a young drummer, revisiting and recording some of Ed’s songs in the Saints, Laughing Clowns, and from his solo albums, the lively, live-off-the-floor sound of their first album, plans to make another one, North American shows in November 2025, other future plans, and much more.

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