Kitchen Table Finance

Ep 114: Retirement Planning Case Study for an MSU Employee

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In today’s episode, Dave and Nick have an interesting case study of a couple of MSU professors. Join us as we take a look at some of the common scenarios that come up in a case like this when we’re helping people create their financial plans.

This is a composite of several clients we’ve met with over the last couple of years to help people get a general feel for how we look at things and how we string a plan together.

A lot of these questions come up quite often and even though we like we say, “There are no firm answers of exactly what you should do in these scenarios,” there are certainly some common ways to think about these things that will hopefully help guide our listeners if they have similar questions in their own personal scenarios.

The MSU Employee Case Study

Their financial Scenario:

  • Married Professors, both MSU faculty
    • Dr. John Doe: 45 years old
    • Dr. Jane Doe: 43 years old
    • Two kids
      • Jimmy, age 15
      • Suzy, age 12
      • Concerns:
        • Know they should be balancing college savings with retirement savings but don’t feel like they’re doing a good job of either one.
        • John would like to work until a “normal” retirement age, but Jane may want more flexibility sooner/younger. They worry about what this might look like and whether they could afford for Jane to stop work sooner than John.
        • Would like to pay for an in-state education for both of their kids
        • They own their own home in East Lansing and re-financed just a few years ago. John really wants to have the debt retired before retirement and is doubling up payments.
        • Worried about insurance coverage if something were to happen to one of them
        • Feel like they should have more money/savings than they do but always seem to spend what they have
        • Facts:
          • Each saving 5% into the MSU retirement plan
          • Contributing $200 / month each for Jimmy and Suzy into a 529 Plan
          • The mortgage was done in 2020 @ 3%, $300,000 original balance with a payment of $1246. Currently paying an extra, $2500 / month
          • Approach:
            • Work through Life Planning to sort out retirement target dates and priorities
              • Also the college goal!
              • Run Monte Carlo projection to see if they are saving enough for retirement and education
              • College funding: delve into the goal and look at alternatives.
                • Flexible funding that can be used for college OR retirement?
                • Run an insurance analysis
                  • Need a large amount of insurance early on, but not much need in retirement
                  • Look at increasing group options through the MSU plan, but also consider private additional insurance
                  • Mortgage: understand the desire to pay off the mortgage before retirement, but doubling mortgage payments right now might not be the best use of funds.
                    • Re-deploy a portion of the double payment to augment college funding and retirement savings
                    • Investments: risk tolerance and portfolio recommendations
                    • Begin tracking budget and cash flow
                      • See where money is going
                      • Review after three or four months to look at priorities
                      • This will help identify money to redeploy as well as give us a better idea of what spending might look like in retirement.

                        • Listen to the entire episode to learn how we put the pieces together to have the conversation about retirement,  target dates, and priorities.

                        If our listeners have questions or other topics you’d like to hear, please feel free to shoot us an email at [email protected].

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                        Kitchen Table FinanceBy David Shotwell CFP(r) and Nick Nauta CFP(r)
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