"Up or Out" is the mindset that employees should be striving to move upward in the organization or are, eventually, moving out of it. Dillon and Trey take different sides of this mentality and attempt to sway the other to their side in this episode.

Show notes:
How to Work with Ambitious Employees: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-work-ambitious-employees-when-theres-growth-liz-kislik/