Chris Grosso The Indie Spiritualist

Ep. 130 - Merging the Material and Spiritual with Matt Winkley


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Through the inspiration of Sufism, Matt Winkley describes how he merged the business world with spirituality to form heart-centered companies and find financial freedom.

This time on The Indie Spiritualist, Matt and Chris chat about:

  • Matt’s youth and leaving for California with only the shirt on his back
  • Building his own business out of his apartment
  • Getting below the hood of pain
  • How meeting a Sufi healer taught Matt to go into his heart-space
  • Walking through the door of the ego and surrendering
  • Building a trusting relationship with the divine
  • Sufism as a sweet, mystical path rather than a rule-centered religion
  • Merging the material world with the spiritual world
  • Advice on having a conscious relationship with money
  • Matt’s experience with chronic stress, burnout, and auto-immune disease
  • Finding financial freedom and learning about passive income
  • Allowing ourselves to experience abundance
  • Examining what we really want, finding purpose, and taking action

About Matt Winkley:

Matt Winkley is a businessman and mystic who doesn’t see a difference between the spiritual world and the external world, finding meaning in both. He built companies with integrity and has a passion for bringing spiritual principles into the workplace. Matt studied intensely under the tutelage of the great spiritual Sufi master Sidi Muhammad al-Jamal. During these years of study Matt transformed himself from the inside out. Taking these teachings into the area of business, Matt seamlessly integrated both worlds, creating unique leadership styles and heart centered business practices. As a savvy investor Matt was able to create financial freedom in his 30’s and now uses his time to give back. He mentors young conscious entrepreneurs, teaches meditation classes and supports charitable causes. Keep up with Matt on his Instagram.

“I think you can be a cautious, spiritual, heart-centered person and have abundance. I don’t believe money changes you, I think it amplifies you. I think if you’re a kind, generous, heart-driven person, you’ll be able to do more of that with resources.” – Matt Winkley

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