Los Angeles-based painter and sculptor Sarah Cain talks about: living in Highland Park, and the trials and tribulations she went through in buying a house (with a studio) there; moving to France as a foreign exchange student at 15, with only a year of French under her belt; going to grad school at UC Berkeley, as opposed to the Cooper Union-to-Yale dual track that she thought was the ticket at the time; being a woman who goes after what she wants, and, as a woman in the art world who's been accused of being too forthright with certain museum curators; her ambition, and how that's informed her career, including getting out of her Upstate New York hometown; the lack of discovery and experimentation in some art; her reputation while in San Francisco and how it's changed since moving to L.A. in 2007; the many routes to success in the art world, whether through the work and NOT being an immense socialite, or the 'fake it till you make it' approach; her relationship to class, having come from a lower-middle class background, to now frequently being in the company of the 1%; how she works in the studio vs. how she works onsite when doing over-the-top installations; and what she thinks about abstraction in its different forms, including her thoughts on having made it when it was very unpopular, vs. now when it's become so popular. The Conversation's website: http://theconversationpod.com/ Please subscribe to The Conversation on iTunes, and leave a positive review: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-artist-podcast/id481461646 The Conversation on Stitcher (the alternative to iTunes): http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwstitchercompodcasttheconversation/the-conversation-art-podcast?refid=stpr The Conversation on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Conversation-An-Artist-Podcast/254884424579431 http://instagram.com/artistpodcast Twitter: @artistpodcast Your support of the podcast is very much appreciated- donations can be made via the website, and help keep the show going.