Derek Sainsbury is the author of the book Storming the Nation: The Unknown Contributions of Joseph Smith's Political Missionaries. He and I talk about his life growing up, moving several times including a short time living in Australia, how a couple of teachers inspired him and changed the course of his life forever, working through mental health struggles, dealing with his wife's severe health challenges and finding joy in living and teaching the gospel. We also discuss how a question about an era in church history lead to intense research, a strengthened testimony and ultimately an incredible book about a group of faithful saints who changed the trajectory of the church forever. Derek is humble, open and brilliant. You will love hearing his story. https://www.stormingthenation.com/