In this episode, Jamie and Noah discuss Ken Wilber’s theory of the pre-trans fallacy, where a more primitive state of awareness can be conflated with a more advanced state of awareness.  This shows up along the healing journey and can cause us to either doubt our progress or think we have come along further than we have.   

0:00 Intro and definition of the Pre-Trans Fallacy 

10:20 Specific examples of the Pre-Trans Fallacy  

10:30  "Impersonal"  

21:56 "Powerless"  

25:28 The Spiritual Bypass of "Let go and Let God"  

31:42 "Faith"  

36:56 "Aimless" or "Purposeless"  

45:15 Nihilism vs Enlightenment: "Life is meaningless."  

56:40 "Sameness"  

1:02:56 "Alone"  

1:10:45 "No Boundaries"  

1:13:05 "Self-Centeredness"  

1:16:10 The importance of understanding the Pre-Trans concept  

1:17:27 Summary   

Resources:   

Integral Theory website: https://integrallife.com/who-is-ken-wilber/?campaignid=13156780690&adgroupid=122067825043&adid=522458038745&gclid=CjwKCAjw9qiTBhBbEiwAp-GE0fHsPk2cvWhicmFPMECpBbo5W0fkk7r76cAvaKZq6U-ZKqmm4L62MBoCcK8QAvD_BwE 

Waking up and Growing up: https://centerforintegralwisdom.org/world-spirituality-project/world-spirituality-practice/