I had the joy of joining Rick Barron on his "That's Life, I Swear" podcast for a conversation about… well... conversation. More specifically, how we can communicate better with each other when conflict arises.

Even though I was the guest, Rick told a story about him and his neighbor that is the perfect example of what I mean when I ask that you set aside your certainty and what you think you know about others and instead follow your curiosity.