If you’ve ever ridden the wave of inner criticism because things didn’t go perfectly right then you are going to want to listen to this conversation. Phew - this chat and Katherine’s book were a balm for my striving / ansty soul.

Telling a perfectionist to do less, worry less, just lower your expectations doesn’t work.

Katherine Morgan Schafler not only knows this but is calling us all to see the superpower in perfectionism to hone the energy for a joy-filled life.

Katherine is a New York City based psychotherapist, author and speaker. Formerly on-site at Google, she's worked in a wide range of clinical settings and is the author of the new book, THE PERFECTIONIST'S GUIDE TO LOSING CONTROL: a path to peace and power.

You can find more and also see which of the 5 types of perfectionism you might have at:

https://www.perfectionistsguide.com/

We go deep in this conversation - about our birthright towards joy, the difference between control and power (hint control doesn’t exist), and tools to come back to what you need and asking for help.

My advice? Drop everything you are doing, grab a hot cup of something and soak into the powerful words and invitation that Katherine extends to us all.

Host: @alihill

Guest: @katherinemorganschafler

The book: The Perfectionists Guide to Losing Control