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Ep. 150 | Train for Chaos: Master Emotional Control & Survive the Worst | John Hearne


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In this powerful follow-up episode, host Lora Thorson sits down once again with John Hearne—a seasoned public safety professional, retired U.S. Park Ranger, and the brain behind Two Pillars Training. With over 30 years of experience, John delivers sobering truths and practical insights on how to train for violence, maintain emotional control, and truly understand human performance under stress.

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👊 In this no-fluff convo, you’ll learn:

* 💥 Why fantasy training fails in real life

* 🧠 How stress crushes performance—and how to beat it

* 😨 The truth about fear and emotional control

* 🎯 The 2 pillars that make or break your readiness

* 🧪 What science says about training that actually works

Notable Quotes:

* "You're not training for the best-case scenario. You're training for when everything goes wrong."

* "Fear is a natural response. The difference between survival and failure is how you train to manage it."

* "Emotional control isn't a switch you flip—it's a skill you build under pressure."

* "Cognitive load is real. The more you try to do under stress, the worse you'll perform without practice."

Connect with John Hearne:

Two Pillars Training: https://twopillarstraining.com/Class registration: https://twopillars.corsizio.com/

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