The Walk: A Devotional Podcast from Worship Leader Magazine

Ep 154: Andrew Osenga: Why We Need to Sing About Doubt, Suffering, and the Past


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“We’re not just making art — we’re shaping theology.”

In this deeply honest and thought-provoking episode of The Walk, musician, producer, and hymn scholar Andrew Osenga unpacks the surprising discovery that reshaped his faith: ancient songs still speak today. From his early years in Caedmon's Call to his executive work at Integrity Music, Andrew has always wrestled with what the Church sings — and what it doesn't.

He shares how old hymnals, Anglican liturgies, and honest songs about suffering reconnected him to Jesus after a season of spiritual burnout. You'll hear why songs about doubt, the future, and loving our enemies are urgently needed today, and how Gen Z is leading a revival of ancient rhythms. If you’ve ever longed for worship that tells the whole truth — this is your episode.

👤 Guest Bio

Andrew Osenga is a Nashville-based singer-songwriter, producer, and A&R veteran known for his work with Caedmon’s Call, The Normals, and artists like Steven Curtis Chapman and Andrew Peterson. He currently leads the collective Anchor Hymns, hosts the podcast The Pivot, and serves his community through songwriting, spiritual formation, and Anglican liturgy. He lives in Nashville, TN with his wife and three daughters.

🔍 Episode Highlights

  • What songs are missing from modern worship?

    “We don’t sing about suffering, doubt, or the future. And that shapes how we see God.”

  • Why hymns still matter:

    “Nobody’s making a dime off of ‘Amazing Grace.’ And we feel that difference.”

  • What drew Andrew to Anglicanism:

    A flooded house, an elderly Bible study, and the quiet beauty of written prayers.

  • Why Gen Z loves liturgy:

    “In a world of marketing, old words feel trustworthy.”

  • What’s next for Anchor Hymns:

    A new collection of songs based on Every Moment Holy, funded by a grant from the Lilly Foundation and Samford University.

💬 Pull Quote

“We typically don’t leave church with the sermon in our head — we leave with the songs. And they teach us what we believe about God.” — Andrew Osenga

🔗 Helpful Links

  • 🎵 Anchor Hymns

  • 📖 How to Remember by Andrew Osenga

  • 🎧 The Pivot Podcast

  • 📷 Follow Andrew on Instagram

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