The guys open up the lab to author and fellow podcaster Jefferson Rogers to discuss what it looks like to make an internal change and how maintaining a certain level of effort and consistency is the key to turning your VISION into a reality. The Utah native opens up about some personal struggles that he has overcome and how at a certain point, you just have to make the leap without knowing all the answers. Now the owner of a seven-figure window business, Rogers talks about how he starts his day at certain time and the importance of trying to maximize your output. The show wraps up with Jefferson having some very interesting names at his roundtable and a look to the future as he embarks on publishing a book.