This episode we have a genuine RAMBLE!!!! Joe Mc and I have a wide ranging conversation about our experience of and the dichotomy that is Kickstarter.

I like and dislike kickstarter in equal measure and this very much comes through in the chat. Its amazing and terrible and amazingly terrible, and terribly amazing. I struggle with podcasts like this and I have been sat on it for a month because I dont want to poo poo anything that anyone does in the industry I have no right, but equally these things effect us, they effect me, and making sense of them helps me to game sustainably.

I havent arrived at my set view point yet, I dont apologize for the loose ends that remain dangling at the close of this episode. This podcast is very much the sort of conversation I have anyway, there just usually isnt a microphone there to capture it. I hope you enjoy it.