Humanity should not be divided. Globalization is a powerful force for good. But it is has ebbed and flowed. Are we retreating to a more insular world -- or does globalization continue, but in a modified form?

Welcome to Episode 17 of Everything is Everything, a weekly podcast hosted by Amit Varma and Ajay Shah.

In this episode, Ajay talks about the first two waves of globalisation -- and then explains the term he has coined, 'The Third Globalization.' We still live in a globalised world, he explains -- but with caveats based on economic statecraft. (And yes, he explains what that is!) Amit explains why we should not worry about trade deficits, and why we should celebrate babysitters. Amit then recommends "the greatest podcast of all time,' and Ajay talks about a book that left him transfixed in an Irani cafe.

This episode was first published on YouTube on October 20, 2023. For magnificent, detailed, juicy show notes, click here.