In Episode 172 of the On Second Thought podcast, ESPN college basketball analyst LaPhonso Ellis discusses the fallout from NCAA president Mark Emmert's announcement that the national tournament will be played without fans attending the games. He also gives a national perspective on Shaka Smart and the Texas Longhorns and its crucial Big 12 tourney matchup against Texas Tech.
Also, Texas softball coach Mike White breaks down his team's 24-3 team start as it prepares for a weekend tournament in Tuscaloosa and the conference opener against 2019 national runner-up Oklahoma.

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