Dr. Joe Esposito is a certified 5 board passer in chiropractic, orthopedics, pain management, double-board certified nutrition, and an award-winning author. 

For the past thirty-five years or so, He had one goal, and that goal was to help you get well and stay well.

If you are needing a push to get things going to stay well and get well then it is time. 

Tips and Tricks on how to stay well and get well with Dr. Joe Esposito. 

Episode Highlights

Joe [00:04:31] That's wheat, dairy and pepperoni and ended. It's all there. And I said, just tell me how you feel. And it's it's you have to eat anyway. Eat good food for two weeks. Any pepperoni pizza? Tell me how you feel if you feel great. I was wrong. I've never been wrong. So give it a shot.

Joe [00:04:48] See what happens. And that's something you have control over.

Ari [00:04:52] You know. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I had a functional medicine client that I had prepared to put onto an elimination diet. So all night shades and gone. Anything that's inflammatory. Sure. And she had paid me eight thousand dollars for this program where we did blood tests and genetic testing. And we I mean, we did massive diagnostics to figure out what was going on. And she was Italian. And she basically told me, I am not going to give up tomatoes ever

Ari [00:09:52] When you are healthy, it's you're not healthy that you crave it. And, you know, I'm Jewish. And breads and positive and, you know. Thing Hollas, and that is we love our bread. Right, Right, of course. And I am 100 percent gluten intolerant. But what you said in our think our previous interview, gluten in bread. Yes. Is a hundred percent of the time going to cause an adverse reaction in everybody. And I'd like you to explain why that is, even if you're not gluten intolerant.

Joe [00:10:29] Sure. Now, this clinical it is some clinical reactions. And this is what people say. I eat bread. I don't feel anything. So that's a clinical reaction. Subclinical means it causes an inflammatory reaction that you may not even be aware of.

Ari [00:11:51] Right. I'd just like to add in, you know, the gluten is a protein that's designed by the plant to stop bugs from eating it. Right. Right. It's a poison. It is designed specifically by the plant to kill whatever eats it. So they don't eat it. Right. And yet we at least in the United States, we breed highly gluten. Yes. We actually have genetically modified since the 70s. Our supply of wheat. Right. To be extra extra gluten gluttonous. So it doesn't really matter if you're gluten intolerant or not technically. Right. Gluten is a poison and it will cause an inflammatory response no matter what.

Joe [00:12:37] Yes, exactly. And I know some people can do organic wheats. They can do wheat from Europe. And they don't have quite the clinical reaction. But like you said, it's been hybridize to the point where it's much shorter, much higher in protein and gluten is made to be added gluten in which other proteins. And that causes the reaction. So I give it up for two weeks, try doing it again. If you do very simple thing, it's free.

Joe [00:17:46] All this raw food that I put my body is just awesome. So raw food always. And if you live in Florida, this always raw food around. You got oranges, you got avocados. And so you can always get raw food, but raw food is going to be the key. And if you do have reaction to lecterns, just pressure.

Ari [00:18:01] OK. So good. Good advice for people if you are to. Look at the systems scale. You and I talked before, and one of the things you said is we need all forms of medicine. We need the emergency care. We need the you know. But there are always flaws in every system. Correct. Right. And so if I'm looking at how do I create performance and peak results within the health care system, what type of things would I be looking at for the flaws that could be optimized?

Ari [00:22:53] OK. So I read. I actually recommend that often. And I very rarely see it, right. You're going to say a medical doctor and you want to interview them. It's going to cost you about 400 bucks. Or your insurance, at least 400 bucks to get in there. And they're going to be like, what? What are you asking me all these questions for? I only have six minutes to work with you.

Joe [00:23:19] That's true. Yeah. Ask your staff. Ask the staff. My staff has worked with me for a long time. They know my my style. I say, hey, listen, can I ask you three questions? You know, do they work with you if I have another doctor call you? Do you mind? You know, do you operate on everybody? I know I spoke to one surgeon one time and he said we only operate on four percent of the patients that come in our office. I said, that's great. What do you do? Other ninety six percent.

Joe [00:32:34] So nothing happens in your body. The brain cancer of what to do. By way of a nerve, indirectly or directly. So two things can interfere with the messages from the brain to the body, chemical or physical. Now, chemical would be food, drugs, alcohol, environmental toxins. These are the things you have a lot of control over. So with our patients, we always do a nutritional workup on every patient. And we educate the patient on things they can do to get healthy.

Ari [00:38:39] You know, part of what I was what I was taught also is that sodium from iodized salt is about 30, 40 percent silicone, which is glass, which is sharp. And the glass, when you eat it cuts the arteries and the cholesterol sticks and goes in to repair the arteries from that inflammation and that damage. And then if you are constantly eating that iodized salt, then you're cutting constantly value have this massive buildup. You know, the buildup comes from previous damage. It's an answer not to it to a cause, not a symptom of its own. Right. Right. So getting to the root of things is one of my fascinating, you know, areas I like to study is I like to study root of cause, root of car and trace things back to their very beginning. So how does that work when somebody say, comes into you, I've got diabetes by my legs are gangrene and I don't have them cut off. I'm I'm, you know, obese at the same time. What what is the kind of thing that you would do or say in order to get to the root cause of what's going on with that person?

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Full Transcription

Ari&joe.mp3

Ari [00:00:01] Has it occurred to you that the systems we live by are not designed to get results. We pay for procedures instead of outcomes, focusing on emergencies rather than preventing disease and living a healthy lifestyle. For over 25 years, I've taken care of Olympians, Paralympians, A-list actors and Fortune 1000 companies. If I did not get results, they did not get results. I realized that while powerful people who controlled the system want to keep the status quo. If I were to educate the masses, you would demand change. So I'm taking the gloves off and going after the systems as they are. Join me on my mission to create a new tomorrow as a chat with industry experts. Elite athletes thought leaders and government officials about how we activate our vision for a better world. We may agree and we may disagree, but I'm not backing down.

Ari [00:00:50] I'm Ari Gronich and this is. Create a new tomorrow podcast.

Ari [00:01:00] Welcome back to another episode of Create a New Tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich, and I am here again with Dr. Joe Esposito.

Ari [00:01:09] An amazing podcaster or chiropractor or nutritionist, pain management specialist, orthopedics. I mean, this guy has done everything in the industry and more. And so I am going to let him kind of give a little bit of his background and talk to you about really what his focus is in the next, you know, one to two years and how he's able to be of service to you.

Joe [00:01:36] Sure. I appreciate that. Well, thank you so much for having me back. I really love being on your show. Of course. Again, my background is on board, certified in chiropractic, orthopedics, pain management, double board certified nutrition. That's five boards. I have a B.S. in nutrition. I'm a retired dietitian, award winning author.

Joe [00:01:51] And so for the past thirty five years or so, I've had one goal, and that goal was to help you get well and stay well. That's it. And so much of health care you have control over. And that's the thing I think most people are missing. They think that if I have something wrong, I have to go to the doctor. But you have control of it because so many so many times the things that happen to you are self-induced.

Joe [00:02:14] You did it to yourself. And that's a hard thing to accept for me to say, gosh, the reason I'm sick is because I did it. And so we keep talking about health care costs and it's out of control and we can't afford it. And only the rich can do for it to get well. Well, you can take care of yourself because most of the things it takes to get well are passive. You have to not do something as opposed to do something. So if I say, listen, I want you to not do something, I don't know how to make it easier or cheaper. It's like, OK, I have to stop doing this. So with food, you know, I talk about the seven deadly sins of nutrition. I've talked about that for years. And the seven deadly sins are alcohol, meat, sugar, dairy, coffee, soda and artificial sweetener.

Joe [00:02:55] And people right now who are listening go, well, I ate my whole diet. If I could eat Alphabeat sugar, dairy, coffee. So an artificial sweetener, I'm going to starve. That's not true. I joke. I said it's probably about a hundred twenty thousand foods you can eat and you've never even thought about it. And people say, well, I like might be OK if you eat meat, make sure it's organic. Can we negotiate on that. I could do that once you stay away from artificial sweeteners. Well, I drink seven or eight diet sodas a day. OK, let's do a diet soda. That's sweet. With stevia as opposed to artificial sweetener. OK, I could do that. You know, the breads, cookies, cakes, donuts, imposter's. Oh my God. I love my bread. I want bread. Everyone loves bread right now. If I can have a piece of Italian bread, you know, hot out of the oven from New York City with a little butter on it. Right. I'd be happy. But if you eat, it is going to be negative side effects. How often? Hundred percent of the time. So I ask people this. I give him a challenge. I say for two weeks. I watch you eat fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds. If you don't know what to eat. Go to our Web site. Dr. Joe dot com. Type in. So what can I eat? And we have a whole hour lecture on breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, parties, raising kids, everything. The first book I wrote called Eating Right for the Health of It is a guide to eating. It tells you what to eat, how to change your diet. The second half is well over 200 recipes. Everything is vegan, everything is gluten free, everything is soy free. I'm not against soy, but a lot of people have reactions to it. So I said, let me make it as clean as possible for you. And I said, do me this. Do do what I say for two weeks. So I ask. Two weeks. At the end of two weeks, I want to go out and have some pepperoni pizza because that's all of it.

Joe [00:04:31] That's wheat, dairy and pepperoni and ended. It's all there. And I said, just tell me how you feel. And it's it's you have to eat anyway. Eat good food for two weeks. Any pepperoni pizza? Tell me how you feel if you feel great. I was wrong. I've never been wrong. So give it a shot.

Joe [00:04:48] See what happens. And that's something you have control over.

Ari [00:04:52] You know. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I had a functional medicine client that I had prepared to put onto an elimination diet. So all night shades and gone. Anything that's inflammatory. Sure. And she had paid me eight thousand dollars for this program where we did blood tests and genetic testing. And we I mean, we did massive diagnostics to figure out what was going on. And she was Italian. And she basically told me, I am not going to give up tomatoes ever.

Ari [00:05:36] Right. Yes. We'll pay you and we're done.

Ari [00:05:42] Because she couldn't even comprehend. I said it's only 14 days. Right. Yeah. Right. Then we see if that tomato is causing that inflammatory response. She couldn't do even 14 days intraday, interestingly enough. So how do you deal with somebody who is. So addicted or habitual or just loves something so much that they won't do that one thing, that may be the thing that makes them healthy.

Joe [00:06:16] Well, that's called an addiction. An addiction, as you're doing something has an adverse effect on your health, your health, your finances or your social life. So you could be addicted to gambling. You could be addicted to sex. You could be addicted to tomatoes. Because, again, if you're eating a nightshade and tomatoes are causing an inflammatory reaction, it stimulates it don't mean receptor sites and it stimulates the endorphins in your brain. You're getting high. So you're smoking. You're getting higher. Your tomatoes and you're thinking, I can't give those up. I get high from them. So what I say then is let's give you enough nutrition for your body to start producing its own natural stimulants so you don't need the outside source. So whenever I have an attic company, whether it's cigarets or food, sugar, of course, is the number one coffee. I load them up on nutrients and almost inevitably, I can't every time it didn't happen. They start to say, you know what, I'm not craving that coffee like I used to. So I have my own line of supplements and I created these supplements because people need it simple, easy, inexpensive ways to manage their health. So the first something I ever created is something called Dr. Joe Super Greens and Dr. Joe's essential source to supplement and essential sources, fruits and vegetables. We juice it, take the water out at a very low temperature. What's left is a power that we have prebiotics probiotics, digestive enzymes, a complete non synthetic multivitamin, the super greed's alkalis, the system. And if we can do that to the body, the body now has at least a fighting chance. But if you're just struggling to get out of bed, you're not gonna give up that coffee. The only thing it's gonna get you out of bed. So when I can get them, get their body super packed with nutrients, they're able to make better decisions. And then they can say, you know what, I can't give up that ice cream or give me a substitute. You know, if you're gonna have ice cream, let's do soy ice cream or coconut ice cream instead. Oh, I'll try that and see. And then I can start to wean him off of psychological. They have to have that ice cream at night. If that coffee in the morning. So once we coach them a little bit and they want to do it, you know, if you ever go to a meeting, what's the first thing they say? You know, I stand up. Hey, I'm Joe and I'm an alcoholic. You have to admit you have a problem first. Are you not gonna make any progress at all?

Ari [00:08:17] So that's a key to recognizing where you are. Is is truly a first step. I know that for me, you know, I've had a brain tumor since I was seven. That causes a mass of hormonal imbalances. Sure. And my doctors have always said you'll never lose weight. You're going to gain weight until you're dead because your hormones aren't balanced correctly and you're healthy. All these things, which is part of why I got into the business to begin with. And I've recently dropped about one hundred and forty two pounds where, as I have been told, I'm a medical mystery and would never lose that weight. And really, it was all about I started intermittent fasting and API diet. So, you know, I took out all of the possible inflammatories and immune response, thinking technical now, you know. But but it works. And if I were to drink something like a soda, it would be so sweet on my tongue. I, I it would just absolutely make me cringe. Right. You know, what I'd like to tell people is.

Ari [00:09:38] Once you become healthy, you do not crave those other things, and you just said that perfectly when it comes to addiction. It's the same thing. You don't crave the things that make you unhealthy.

Ari [00:09:52] When you are healthy, it's you're not healthy that you crave it. And, you know, I'm Jewish. And breads and positive and, you know. Thing Hollas, and that is we love our bread. Right, Right, of course. And I am 100 percent gluten intolerant. But what you said in our think our previous interview, gluten in bread. Yes. Is a hundred percent of the time going to cause an adverse reaction in everybody. And I'd like you to explain why that is, even if you're not gluten intolerant.

Joe [00:10:29] Sure. Now, this clinical it is some clinical reactions. And this is what people say. I eat bread. I don't feel anything. So that's a clinical reaction. Subclinical means it causes an inflammatory reaction that you may not even be aware of.

Joe [00:10:40] Right now, your your adrenal glands are producing adrenaline. You don't know that. But it's happening. In fact, 90 percent of everything that goes on in your body you're totally unaware of. You're only aware about 10 percent of the nerves in your body, 90 percent of nerves don't feel pain. So what I find is if you're eating gluten, it can cause an inflammatory reaction, even on a small scale. But here's the thing with wheat. Two wheat, sugar. So let's assume that you're right and some people don't have any reaction whatsoever to gluten, I'm willing to OK. Maybe I'm wrong. I'll give you that. But wheat is still sugar. It's made of bran, which is the covering of the wheat. The endosperm, which is basically sugar, flour and flours, basically sugar. And then there's the germ, which is where the nutrients are. So what do we do? We make white flour. We take off the bran because that makes the whole wheat flour. We take the germ out because that has vitamin E in it, which you go rancid and that's why whole wheat flour goes bad. That's what we have left is essentially sugar. So if you're eating bread, it's just like eating tablespoons of sugar. So regardless of the gluten issue, if you could go with it or not, I'm fine with whatever direction I go. No one disagrees that it's pure sugar. And so that's why it's not a good idea to be eating.

Ari [00:11:51] Right. I'd just like to add in, you know, the gluten is a protein that's designed by the plant to stop bugs from eating it. Right. Right. It's a poison. It is designed specifically by the plant to kill whatever eats it. So they don't eat it. Right. And yet we at least in the United States, we breed highly gluten. Yes. We actually have genetically modified since the 70s. Our supply of wheat. Right. To be extra extra gluten gluttonous. So it doesn't really matter if you're gluten intolerant or not technically. Right. Gluten is a poison and it will cause an inflammatory response no matter what.

Joe [00:12:37] Yes, exactly. And I know some people can do organic wheats. They can do wheat from Europe. And they don't have quite the clinical reaction. But like you said, it's been hybridize to the point where it's much shorter, much higher in protein and gluten is made to be added gluten in which other proteins. And that causes the reaction. So I give it up for two weeks, try doing it again. If you do very simple thing, it's free.

Ari [00:12:59] That is, you know, I like that you you always add in the. This is a free thing. Eating healthy is too expensive. I can't do it. The funds. Right. Does it cost you to be sick.

Joe [00:13:13] Yeah, exactly. And I need it again. Maybe you're not eating organically grown raw broccoli. Maybe that's a little expensive, but you can get a can of beans. You know, maybe it's not organic, but you'll get two cans of beans for a dollar and you can get some rice. Is it ideal? No, it's not. But it's a heck of a lot better than a hamburger with cheese on white bread. So I always say, look, look to our ancestors. You know, I'm Italian. You're Jewish. Look to what they eat. They didn't have a lot of money. So what did they eat? They eat a lot of vegetables with a little bit of pasta, a little bit of meat. I remember go to my grandmother's house and we always have the vegetables and do the soups. And then to be a little tiny piece of meat, a little bit of pasta. It's not we don't eat these big meals of pasta. They think like Italians are eating know a little bit. And then there's always a salad at the end of a meal. No matter what. It was always a raw salad. So think how poor people eat and then you eat like that. My favorite cuisine is Ethiopian. I will love Ethiopian food. My gosh. And I grab. I'm sorry. Up and have. I don't know. But Ethiopian food, lentils, beans with peas, vegetables. And they use something called Tef. Now Taffe is a grass basically and they make something called Injia out of it. And so I just love Ethiopian food. I love the spices. I love it's fun to eat your hands and it's kind of fun. In America, we take in Jira and now we add. We do. It makes it more palatable for Americans. If you go to Ethiopian restaurant, ask for the pure and euro with the Taffe only. So looking at other countries and how they eat and we know that the longest living people don't eat a lot of meat. They don't. They eat plant based carbohydrates. They don't eat sugars and breads and cookies and cakes and donuts. And so as long as you're eating mostly plant based diet, you're going to probably live a lot longer than anybody else. So there's no argument there either. Studies are very clear.

Ari [00:14:59] Absolutely. And, you know, one of the things living in Florida that I absolutely miss from living in Los Angeles is the Ethiopian restaurant that I used to go to on Slosson. And you remember it, too, on the wall. It was, you know.

Ari [00:15:16] Oh, flavorful. Now, here's a question for you. You know, nice shades, lecterns, those kinds of things. I've been told that I really shouldn't eat beans or grains or any other kinds of kinds of things. And so where I live, which is a smaller town of, you know, in in Florida, it's not as rich of organic and variety of foods as what a Sandhills.

Ari [00:15:49] You know, how how would somebody who is in a rural kind of place and doesn't have access to some of these kinds of foods but does have these inflammatory responses, how would they be able to get the kinds of foods that you would recommend? Sure.

Joe [00:16:04] Well, something simple, if you do have elected reaction, you can always pressure them. You can buy these pressure. I mean, my mother had a big aluminum pressure cooker, I remember years ago. And I you can buy about 60, 70 dollars. And if you pressure cook the beans, it breaks down like this. So it's a real simple thing you can do. So even if you're eating inexpensive foods, there's a way to break them down. So that's a real easy thing to do. I try to recommend somebody if something raw at every meal, I say raw broccoli, cucumbers, tomatoes, avocados, lettuces, because raw food have something in it called enzymes. And enzymes are the secret to health care. Nobody's talking about them, but without enzymes, we're dead. You can live what you know for a long time with a lot of missing, a lot of other nutrients. But you can't live a long time without enzymes. And so your body produces enzymes. When you're young, you've got this big store of enzymes, your puppet about like crazy when you become old. The enzyme levels drop and we have a word for that. It's called aging. And so we could easily reverse that. See, I'm almost 60 years old. My staff, mostly 20 to 25 year olds. I run circles around a 20 year olds and Garrett my I.T. guy, my market director. He always jokes. He says, where are you? Plug in. He says, you can't be riding like this every day. But it's because I don't poison myself. I'm not special. I don't have great genetics. Just don't poison yourself. So raw food is going to be a key. I grew basil in my backyard this year and I just harvested it last weekend and I made so much pesto pine nuts, sun dried tomatoes, basil, little olive oil, salt, pepper. And I had pesto for lunch today. Now, it was kind of an odd thing. I did have some gluten free crackers, but I put a lot of pasta on a little tiny cracker. I feel great.

Joe [00:17:46] All this raw food that I put my body is just awesome. So raw food always. And if you live in Florida, this always raw food around. You got oranges, you got avocados. And so you can always get raw food, but raw food is going to be the key. And if you do have reaction to lecterns, just pressure.

Ari [00:18:01] OK. So good. Good advice for people if you are to. Look at the systems scale. You and I talked before, and one of the things you said is we need all forms of medicine. We need the emergency care. We need the you know. But there are always flaws in every system. Correct. Right. And so if I'm looking at how do I create performance and peak results within the health care system, what type of things would I be looking at for the flaws that could be optimized?

Joe [00:18:43] Well, again, if you keep yourself healthy, you're not going to have to be part of the system as much. So that's really the easiest thing to do. You don't have to worry about it because you're lowering your odds dramatically. If you don't have to go there again when I slice the top, my finger off. Well, that was a medical case. Absolutely. I didn't have a choice. I went to the first emergency clinic I could go into and I got treated. But if you're looking at something major, OK, you go to an orthopedic surgeon, you have back pain. We didn't have our eye over a swollen disc. You need surgery.

Joe [00:19:12] Time out. Let's get a second opinion. Thirty nine percent of our eyes are false positive. So what that means is if you have neck pain and I take an MRI of you. Thirty nine percent of time, you're gonna have a swollen disc, but it's not causing your neck pain. If I take 100 people, I don't have any pain. Thirty nine percent are going to swell. This doesn't mean it's causing you to pain. So if you happen to have a swollen disc and pain, it doesn't necessarily mean the same thing.

Joe [00:19:35] So the best thing you could do is get a second opinion and then get a third opinion and look conservative first. I always say chiropractic first, drug second, surgery last. So if it's a pain issue, chiropractic easiest, simplest, least the least expensive way to go.

Joe [00:19:51] We hope we have a policy of six doctors that I want all my doctors, you know, they're under me for offices. And I always say we're gonna treat the patient for 10 visits. If we don't see any improvement, then we're going to go to the next level. Then we're going to do an MRI. Now, we found an MRI correlates with the pain. Let's find a neurosurgeon. If it's spine like neurosurgery, if it's a XtremIO orthopedic surgeon. And I've created over the years a relationship with these doctors. And I know that they're not happy because some doctors you walk in, I'm going to cut off your back. Fifty thousand dollars with you. Well, may not be the problem you have. So fifty thousand dollars. So I like to get a team of doctors that I know I can trust and that we call managed a case. And that's the key. Find doctors that are willing to co manage with other doctors. That means them more open minded as well. Well, keep yourself healthy. You're less likely to have to be part of the system.

Ari [00:20:38] Right. So integration of medicine, though, is is really key. And learning the language of the other modalities is so important, in my opinion, because if we don't learn the language like chiropractors have a different language, then massage therapists who have a death, which then physical therapists who have a different language than orthopedics. Correct. We all speak very different languages, which is why things get lost in translation so often. Why somebody might say, don't trust that person. They're only a chiropractor. Yeah. So here's here's an odd question for you. I'm sure that you've never heard this before. But are all chiropractors created equal? Are therapists created equal?

Ari [00:21:30] And how do you know as a consumer when you're going to somebody, if that's the person that can really be of service and benefit and help to you?

Joe [00:21:42] I agree. A hundred percent. Not everyone is. Is this good? Not everybody is bad. So when I say interview your doctor, you're hiring me to do a job.

Joe [00:21:51] You're going to pay me for my service just like I would hire a staff member. So interview your doctor. What's your philosophy? What's your thought? Do you work with other doctors? How well you've been in practice? When I was first in practice, I didn't know a fraction of what I know right now. So I want to find out. I want to go to somebody. I need patients when I was young and I get that. But I don't go experiment on somebody else. I want somebody who has a couple of miles underneath their belt and then find out what they thought. So do you have any problem? If I call my other doctor, would you mind if my doctor spoke to you? Absolutely not. No, I don't talk to the doctors. Interview them like you would a job. And the best thing you could do is get a referral. Talk to your friends. You know, Ari, who do you go to for your dental work? Well, I go to Dr. Smith. Whatever. OK, great. You've been happy. I'll be going to eight, 10 years. It's great. You know, I went to one dentist. They want to fill in. You said you did need it. OK. Now I know somebody I can trust, but there are some clinics. You know, we call them a mill. You just burn. Bernard Shaw, welcome in and out. Welcome in and out. And that's at the clinic. I want you to go to I want you to go to somebody who you trust and then interview the doctor as well. Those are the criteria. I do what I have to find a doctor as well.

Ari [00:22:53] OK. So I read. I actually recommend that often. And I very rarely see it, right. You're going to say a medical doctor and you want to interview them. It's going to cost you about 400 bucks. Or your insurance, at least 400 bucks to get in there. And they're going to be like, what? What are you asking me all these questions for? I only have six minutes to work with you.

Joe [00:23:19] That's true. Yeah. Ask your staff. Ask the staff. My staff has worked with me for a long time. They know my my style. I say, hey, listen, can I ask you three questions? You know, do they work with you if I have another doctor call you? Do you mind? You know, do you operate on everybody? I know I spoke to one surgeon one time and he said we only operate on four percent of the patients that come in our office. I said, that's great. What do you do? Other ninety six percent.

Joe [00:23:42] And he did have an answer that as I dug a little deeper, it turns out he was lying to me. So ask the staff these questions.

Joe [00:23:50] Do you can fire your doctor? It's OK to fire your doctor. You hired them. You can fire them.

Ari [00:23:57] That's awesome. You know, I was thinking we should probably get a list together of the questions, interview questions to ask here. Good idea. You're your personal trainer. Whoever it is can verify them because, you know, the old joke is. What do you call the person who finished last in medical school?

Joe [00:24:17] Dr. Right. Exactly. So I just got to finish first. Doesn't mean they're good either.

Ari [00:24:21] Right. Just because a friend may recommend doesn't mean that the friend knows. Might a good or not? I mean, I've never heard someone say you should go to my doctor. He's just OK.

Ari [00:24:33] But, you know, you should go to my doctor. He sucks.

Ari [00:24:39] I heard that. I've only heard you should go to my doctor because that's who I go to, right?

Joe [00:24:44] Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. Is that a bad idea really? You could point to me is that we could post on a Web site. No questions to ask your doctor.

Ari [00:24:50] Absolutely. This is one of the things that that I always say to people who are taking my courses is I create a program for every client that comes in. I literally I'll spend an hour, two hours asking them every possible question that I could think of that affects their life. Because, you know, I remember time not in my lifetime, but in my studies where a doctor would show up at your door and live with you for a week or two to figure out what was going on in your environment. That was you to be sick. Right. And we can't do that with the six minute, you know, is. So what's the answer? And I always say, if you if you could spend an hour or two hours really curious about your client and patient. Asking them everything, you can then develop a plan that you can test right for their health, right. And not a lot of therapists or doctors create plans. You know, I know that you you do your 10 visits and then you reassess and then you take. OK. So what do we need to do from here and assess? And then what do we need to do from here? And you take them through an actual process, a system. So flaws in the system. I like to I like to pick fights. I would say more like challenging systems right then than picking fights. But a flaw in the system is because of how insurance works. Doctors are not getting paid. And, you know, alternative health care vilifies the medical doctors, medical doctors vilify alternative health care. And what nobody understands is that we are about doing the same thing and doctors sometimes are broke. I've seen I've seen instances where because they take the burden of a practice, they're driving the Pinto while their employee is driving. Yes. Mercedes, right? Yeah. How do we shift? The system itself, so that it's more about results than procedures,.

Joe [00:27:07] And that's educating the public how the public doesn't know that things exist.

Joe [00:27:12] Patients can be all time and they had left leg pain. Well, they don't know. We treat right like pain and we don't treat left like pain. And it really is like sometimes that level. Well, oh, my wife has left like that. You do that. Yeah, we do. And so it's all about education. And that's why my radio show is my TV shows are so crazy popular all over the world, because in the show we make it like we make it fun, but we tell people that there's options out there. You know, the quickest, easiest, least expensive insurance policy you'll ever buy is vitamin D. And now you're Florida, you're getting lots of vitamin D because you're closer to the equator, but the further north you go, the more likely you are to get sick. I mean, the flu season is much worse up north than it is in the south. If vitamin D is getting more vitamin D, when you and I were kids, we went outside every day. School was over and outside came in. One of the street lights came on. Now we're inside all the time. We're sitting all the time. So I know if people do that, it's five. Five thousand international units of vitamin D is one of the best things you could do for your immune system. I didn't know that. So education is really the key. And that's why I do as many radio shows and talk shows and I do my own shows. I do it for free to fire stations. Now, just in the Atlanta area, we do TV shows, podcasts, and every show we do, I get bombarded with calls and emails saying, Dr. Joe, I didn't know blank. So education's key.

Ari [00:28:32] Yeah. You know, it's funny during this this experience that we're having of the word this new experience. You know, I don't like to get into the covered thing directly. So does. But right now, we're being isolated in our homes. Right. So what is the biggest thing that we can do to boost our immune system is get vitamin D and go in the sun, get right in our bodies, hug people, you know, build our immune system. We don't eat. You know, we're adults, so we're not eating mud pies anymore. Right. That helps your boost your immune system as well. Yes. So what do you say to people who are so scared of bacteria?

Joe [00:29:16] That's that's scary that you're scared of bacteria. Because there's something called the hygiene hypothesis and a hygiene hypothesis is that we're too clean.

Joe [00:29:25] And this scares me with this covered issue because I'm washing my hands. We have sanitizers everywhere, make my own sanitizer. We have sanitizers everywhere. We're wearing masks. We're not being exposed to viruses, germs and bacteria that do help build up our immune systems. And we're sitting in a house and we're not getting vitamin D. So when flu season hits, I'm scared. I'm frightened. So that's why I have a guy. I work in my garden all the time. I'm always outside. And it's not even so much for the tomatoes or whatever is I'm growing, you know, my cucumbers because I go by. It's it's a lot easier if I just went bought them than if I'm out there watering them and weeding them and everything. But that's an exercise. And you're touching the soil. You're getting probiotics, good bacteria on your hands. So, yes, we need to have a clean environment, not saying don't be a slob, but I agree with you. I think we do need some human contact because my germs are a little different than your germs and that your body will work on it. And that's why I support kissing.

Joe [00:30:21] So everybody should kiss more because kissing is a great way to build up the immune system.

Ari [00:30:24] So, you know, it's hard to kiss with a mask on. It really is. And that's that they're recommending that know yourself those recommendations.

Ari [00:30:33] And I saw that there a sports team that is now have they have a sanitary mister that you walk through. In order to deal buggier, I find it interesting, the fear of of this bacteria and viruses and stuff, because on your skin is a slew of species, bacteria and stuff that actually keep away things like scabies. And, you know. Exactly right. So this whole thing, if if we're overly alcoholic's our system and sanitizing our system, what's that doing to our immune system directly?

Joe [00:31:23] Exactly. And I'm not saying we shouldn't be cautious. And I'd say we should be flippant about this, but I am concerned that I think we I think we should start getting in to better contact with healthy people. I mean, that's the other thing, too. We said you know, I said the last time we interviewed, one of the things you want to do is surround yourself with good people. And it also means helping people. And so that would be a benefit as well.

Joe [00:31:44] I'm not saying we should be doing haphazardly, not washing our hands and touching our face. But I think we have to strike some kind of happy balance there.

Ari [00:31:54] Excellent. Yeah, you know.

Ari [00:31:58] I always get fascinated by a chiropractor's approach to the nervous system, huh? So why don't you explain what is happening, especially the noise that people are so afraid of. Right. A click, click, click, click, click, click, click.

Ari [00:32:19] Exactly what is it that that is doing for your nervous system that then translates into less pain, better health?

Joe [00:32:27] Well, the way the body works is your brain sends messages down your spine, out your nerves to every cell in the body is 80 trillion cells.

Joe [00:32:34] So nothing happens in your body. The brain cancer of what to do. By way of a nerve, indirectly or directly. So two things can interfere with the messages from the brain to the body, chemical or physical. Now, chemical would be food, drugs, alcohol, environmental toxins. These are the things you have a lot of control over. So with our patients, we always do a nutritional workup on every patient. And we educate the patient on things they can do to get healthy.

Joe [00:32:58] Physically, if a bone moves out of place, it causes an inflammatory reaction that inflammation can compress the nerve and it's a lot more to it than that. But basically it's pinching a nerve. So you pinched nerve. It can hurt. Only 10 percent of the time. 90 percent of your nerves don't feel pain. So you could have a pinched nerve and not know it.

Joe [00:33:17] So in our offices, all my doctors are trained by me to check the nerves that feel pain and to check the 90 percent that don't feel pain. This is one of the things that separates us from many, many other doctors in the world. No one ever talks about the nerves that don't feel pain. So if I pinch it off to my lungs, I may not have good breathing. I figure if I call it my spleen, my sex organs, my liver, those organs aren't working at 100 percent. So we can check the nerves and feel pain. And then there is it. Don't feel pain. Now we're able to restore normal function and the brain needs three things to function oxygen, stimulation and nutrition. So oxygen is we said at the desk all day with hunched over, we're not breathing as well as we should get out, walk, stand up a lot. Most of radio shows. I do. I do. Standing stimulation. Listen to this podcast. Listen to your podcast. Every time somebody listens to one of your podcasts, they're getting new information or stimulating different parts of the brain. And then nutrition is eating a good diet. So if we can get oxygen, stimulation, nutrition into the body, get the nervous system working, get the digestive system working and get them on good nutrition.

Joe [00:34:18] Now we have a health care plan. Most people have health insurance, but they don't have a health plan. So we put together a health plan and then that cracking, that popping noise you hear is when a joint moves out of alignment. It's believed nitrogen gas can get into that joint and we put the joint back in place. It's just air rushing out. That's what I've done. Clapping my hands is just air rushing out from between my hands. So all it is, is air rushing out. Now, if you keep doing it too much and done improperly, I should say, you can actually stretch the ligaments that hold the bones together. Ligaments like rubber bands once they stretch. They never go back to the original for the older we get the borb. Loss of Lack's, loss of ligaments, integrity we have. And so that's why good diet is important so that the nutrients can get into the ligaments and start to heal them as well. So the popping noise is really nothing to worry about if it's done by somebody who knows what they're doing.

Ari [00:35:09] Absolutely. And that comment is knowing, you know, somebody who knows what they're doing. So I see people all day long.

Joe [00:35:17] Crack their neck out. Doing that.

Ari [00:35:21] Doing their back, cracking there, right? What do you think of somebody doing there? That's self care.

Joe [00:35:30] I would say nice job security for me. As long as they keep doing that, I'm going to have a job. I got to fix them myself. Don't pop your own neck. You don't know how to do it. You can't even get the right angle if I don't have to do it. And I can't do it.

Joe [00:35:40] I can't get the right angle. I got to approach it from the back and my arms that go that way. That way. So go see a professional. I don't do a dental work, OK? So I go to a dentist for dental work. Go to somebody who knows spinel health care and spinal hygiene. We call it to make somebody have somebody do that for you.

Ari [00:35:56] Awesome. The other thing that you mentioned is brain health. And I was watching Broken Brains as a Mark Hyman documentary series. And they were talking about inflammation in the brain and diabetes and how they're calling inflammation or Alzheimer's and dementia type three diabetes right now. Right. The foods that we're eating are causing so much inflammation. And they're now finding that it's breaking that blood brain barrier, causing inflammation in the brain, which then causes the cholesterol to try to cover up the inflammation. And so this is a it's a multipart question. Cholesterol is not bad or is bad. Right. OK. And the inflammation being sent to your brain being only about nutrition?

Joe [00:36:48] Well, it's interesting because just this morning, I had somebody come to my house to give me an estimate as a repair work at the house.

Joe [00:36:53] And he walked in and he said, We got your doctor, Joe. Yeah. And he goes, Oh, my God. I just listened to your show on cholesterols. When you said X, that was the first thing you said to me. He says, it blew my mind. Cholesterol is not bad. It's actually good.

Joe [00:37:08] We need cholesterol. It's what we make our hormones out of. It's how that coating around the nerves of the sheath, around a nerve is made. So, yes, we absolutely need cholesterol. And it's not so much cholesterol. It's floating around in your blood. That's dangerous. If it's too high, of course, it's the cholesterol stuff, the artery walls. So fella came to my house, realized who I was, taught me to listen to a show on cholesterol. He said I didn't know cholesterol is good. I thought lower, better. I said, no, no, no. Lower can be really bad because a lower cholesterol, you need cholesterol for your hormones and your nerves and everything has to have cholesterol in order to work. So many things do. So if the cholesterol floating around in your blood is still floating, it's like a pipe. As long as it's not, it's still flowing through the pipe, you're fine. It's when the pipe gets clogged up. And so that's why I tell people you want to get your cholesterol checked. You also want get your homocysteine levels checked and you're c reactive protein because homocysteine is is a direct correlation to how much cholesterol is likely to stick to the artery walls. And the C reactive protein tells us how much inflammation there is in the body. And so if we have those three things that are positive, then we start saying, OK, we got to do something and we can do it. We can do scans. Many times I take an x ray, it's building up a cholesterol in the arteries, hardening of the arteries. And so cholesterol is OK. I'm not offended by that, but it has to be the right kind. And many times it's not that you're producing too much cholesterol, it's that you're not recycling the old stuff. And that's what raises your cholesterol levels. So dropping to production of cholesterol will lower the cholesterol levels. But that's not the problem. It's the symptom. The symptom is to recycle Anisfield.

Ari [00:38:39] You know, part of what I was what I was taught also is that sodium from iodized salt is about 30, 40 percent silicone, which is glass, which is sharp. And the glass, when you eat it cuts the arteries and the cholesterol sticks and goes in to repair the arteries from that inflammation and that damage. And then if you are constantly eating that iodized salt, then you're cutting constantly value have this massive buildup. You know, the buildup comes from previous damage. It's an answer not to it to a cause, not a symptom of its own. Right. Right. So getting to the root of things is one of my fascinating, you know, areas I like to study is I like to study root of cause, root of car and trace things back to their very beginning. So how does that work when somebody say, comes into you, I've got diabetes by my legs are gangrene and I don't have them cut off. I'm I'm, you know, obese at the same time. What what is the kind of thing that you would do or say in order to get to the root cause of what's going on with that person?

Joe [00:40:08] Well, we always do nutritional workup on everyone. OK, we have everybody that we call diet diary.

Joe [00:40:13] I always tell them, don't change your diet, don't lie. Just write down everything you eat everything. If you have a piece of gum, if you have a candy, I want. Written down for the next sometimes three, four, five days.

Joe [00:40:23] Then I had a symptom survey. We call it that mark off these different symptoms and I can look at the symptoms, I can look at the dye and I could say, OK, you know what? It looks like you might have your liver might be not working at optimum function or might be a adrenal issue or a bowel issue. And so then we put together a nutritional protocol specifically for them. And then we look at their spine, of course, as a chiropractor, we overlook the spine because that's the source of all nerves. And so if they have pinched nerve or put the nurse back in place and the other thing that's always missed is their digestive system. So many patients come to me and have acid reflux and heartburn burping, gas bloating, and the stomach, which sits below a muscle called the diaphragm, sometimes can push up against the diaphragm. It pushes up against a diaphragm, ultimately can rupture or herniate through the diaphragm. We call that a hiatal hernia, an hernia. Many times we can actually take the stomach and pull it back down away from the diaphragm and move it back to its original position, its normal position. I would say about eighty five percent of patients I test have this condition, even if they don't have symptoms as a way to test if it's subclinical. And so along with chiropractic, we want to open up the nerve, the blood supply through chiropractic adjustments. We want to fix the digestive system. We want to get them off. The bad foods are destroying the bacteria. Nicole, let me get him on good foods that build up the good back to your Nicole. And in most cases, when patients do what we say, they are blown away. The biggest complaint I get, I get this complaint every single day.

Joe [00:41:53] Why didn't I do this sooner? Why did I wait so long? I hear it every day.

Ari [00:41:59] That is that is amazing. And, you know, to me, it's so comprehensive, the approach, because, you know, you hear a lot nowadays about gut health. But only, you know, I guess in my echo chamber, I hear a lot about gut health because that's a that's a thing that we're realizing controls your brain more than any bacteria in your gut can make you crave the donuts that you're seen smelling. You don't even see them. Just smell this and think about it. Right. And all of a sudden, the bacteria in your belly go. I want one of those. And then the craving starts and then it's like, OK, I'm done, I'm done. I'm going to Winchell's. I'm getting a donut. Right. Right. And so people don't realize that their behaviors are not always their fault or their voice. Right. Right. The gut is really in charge of your brain cells a lot more than we we know. So they're calling, you know, microbiome the second brain. But in some cases, there is more trillions of them than there are of our own cells. Correct. So they could be more active than your own you know, your own thoughts.

Joe [00:43:24] Yeah. We have about 90 percent. I think the last study I read. 90 percent bacteria. You know, 90 to nine to one bacteria to human cells. So we really are just life-support for bacteria. So all we ever do is dislike, support for bacteria. So we get a good bacteria that was supporting our bad bacteria. It's a nerve that connects the brain to the gut, called the vagus nerve for us.

Joe [00:43:44] And I always had my favorite nerve because the vagus nerve controls so many different things. And if the vagus nerve is irritated, it can cause high blood pressure. It can cause heart palpitations. It can affect digestion. Digestion can affect brain function. It's like a leaky gut syndrome. And so we got to take care of the gut. And that's something that almost all doctors ignore. And I wish they wouldn't. And sometimes it's just as simple as saying, listen, stop eating sugar. Like you said, maybe you're doing something with a lot of antibiotics in it. Maybe like commercial meat and dairy products have a lot of antibiotics in. And so you're killing off the bacteria, Nicole. And every time you eat that food, let's cut that out. Maybe switch to organic, which doesn't have the antibiotics. Now, I don't eat meat. I've been a vegan for 34 years now. I'm not asking my patients to be vegan, but if there was a better way to eat, I would eat that way. I would love to have a meatball sandwich with provolone cheese on Italian bread. I would love to do that. I miss it. I remember thirty five years ago what it tasted like. I know it's not worth it. And that's what I try to teach people. Is it worth. Is it worth being sick? Now we're dying early. No. So I'd like to have that donut.

Joe [00:44:48] But it's not worth it to me when I can't get that their mindset going in that direction. It's great. And then we can get them on probiotics. One of the supplements I have is Dr. Joe's probiotics super greens, an essential source, have prebiotics and probiotics and it knows it too. Supplements. I recommend everybody take that's like a minimum supplement. Everybody should be taking a super greed's an essential source. And all these are on our Web site. Dr. Joe, dot com and I have a whole lot of supplements I've created because I want to make sure people are getting the nutrients that they need and then the extra boost if they need that as well.

Ari [00:45:17] You know, one of the things you had mentioned earlier and I used to to be close friends with Dr. Well, Lou Korona, I don't know if you Lou or heard of him. He's in Orange County area, but he's been considered by many, like one of the foremost experts on enzymes. And this is a guy who in his late 50s would he'd go to a raw food restaurant that I loved in unless it was in this county called Oh Lokke, my favorite raw food restaurant. And every Tuesday he would be doing these presentations on enzymes. Sure. And he would do a demonstration of himself being in his late, you know, late mid to late 60s at the time. And he would take three fingers and he would put them on the ground and he would lift his entire body up off the ground, his legs straight out in front of them. Wow. Any hold it for a minute. Wow, that's crazy. A full minute. And that and he would say just what you said. Enzymes are anti aging. And as a young guy, I am. And then he would challenge one of the younger guys in the room to.

Ari [00:46:37] He said, you don't need meat.

Ari [00:46:39] He was a vegan as well, you don't need meat to create strength, right? And to create muscles. This is what's possible when you're eating well, but eating massive amounts of enzymes. So do you have an enzyme that you recommend or enzyme supplements or a string of them that you recommend?

Joe [00:46:57] Dr. Joe's enzyme support. Find a Web site. Dr. Joe dot com. Now, I've got my own line of supplements and I always say if I eat a cooked meal, I'll have an enzyme supplement if I get a totally raw deal. I don't take the enzyme supplement. But as we get older, our enzyme levels are dropping. And so it's a real quick, easy, simple, inexpensive fix. If you cook food, get those enzymes back in there, take the stress off your body. And that's why the essential source of super greens have protein probiotics as well. And enzymes to help you digest your food. But they also digest himself. So if you're eating a raw carrot, about 60 to 80 percent of that carrot is going to be digested by the enzymes in the carrot. If you cook that carrot now, you have to use 100 percent of your own enzymes. So that's why you want eat something raw at every meal.

Ari [00:47:40] Can you. Can you kind of give a quick explanation on what exactly do enzymes do not just for your digestion, but also for pain, for your enzymes?

Joe [00:47:52] I look at as a dating service, a cellular dating service.

Joe [00:47:55] So the enzyme says, OK, you you calcium and you phosphorous, whatever, you guys got to get to know each other. So the enzymes cause these chemical interactions to occur. And I was picture I have this cartoon in my head that it looks like. So it's like a dating service and it makes everything start to come alive when it comes to inflammation, the enzymes to actually break down the inflammation like like PAC Man. And it's eating through things. And so the enzymes can break down inflammation. And that's why raw food diet is so important in pain management. I'm the only chiropractor I know in Georgia. I'm licensed in Florida, too, by the way. But I'm the only chiropractor. Georgia, I know it was board certified pain management. And so when I go to the pain management conferences, I'm like UTA coordinates. They're like. That's.

Joe [00:48:38] That's the guy. That's the guy who doesn't do drugs. He's a pain management expert. And so I remember one time I said, you're at a conference, a guy comes up next to me. So they ask me questions about a neurological issue, a patient deal with it. Can you hang on a second? Here. Years ago, we were you know, we would do the witchdoctors and now they're coming to us in droves because we have skills and knowledge that they've never even heard of. And that's why I said I'm more than happy to co manage a case. But the enzymes are going to be a key because they break and inflammation may help digestion. They help kids from rape. They prevent skin for regling. So enzymes are real quick. Again, easy, inexpensive way to keep the body healthy.

Ari [00:49:18] Absolutely. So, you know, my my ex-wife used to have a fibroid the size of a basketball. Really? It was humongous. And we had started to do some enzyme therapy. And the shrinking that it was, I mean, fully visual. You could see how much it shrank with enzymes that were specific to fibrous tissue. Right. And then she got pregnant and all of a sudden it went huge again. Right. Right. Take the enzymes, because the the theory was that the enzymes may see the pregnancy as a foreign object and want to correct that. Right. So for women who are going through fibroids insists and I mean, there is a massive amount of enzyme research to show that rather than surgery and hysterectomy And. Right. Taking out your organs, if you were to take enzymes instead, you'd be able to clear those up. Now that I can't say online cure, I can't say that it's going to be a fix. Right.

Joe [00:50:41] Right.

Ari [00:50:41] Of course I make promises is a possibility. Right. Right now, this is where I like to challenge the system. What would you say to the system that says to us who have clinical experience in doing things and reversing things that are going on when they say you can't say that? Right. Right. And so how are people supposed to know?

Joe [00:51:06] Right.

Joe [00:51:07] Well, what I say is, in my experience, what I found. What I've seen happen, what I do for myself is this. If you are my sister, this is what I would recommend you do.

Joe [00:51:18] And I always say, no promises, no guarantees. So I don't I promise no one can promise anything in health care. I always say no promises, no guarantees. However, I don't see a downside to doing this.

Joe [00:51:29] So let's do it and see what happens if it doesn't work. We can always go a little more aggressive, but I always put a disclaimer, every radio show I do, it is a disclaimer.

Joe [00:51:37] You know, the information on this show is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure any disease. Always check with your doctor.

Joe [00:51:41] And I'm not diagnosing it, curing or anyone. I'm just saying this is what you might want to consider because the Hippocratic Oath is, above all, do no harm, no harm. So is there harm in eating carrots and celery? No. So let's see if we can put that into our diet and then we can add other things if we need to start out slow work our way up. That's always my approach.

Ari [00:52:01] Right. So why is it that the system of medicine has gone so far away from that Hippocratic Oath? Because every drug that you'll see advertised on TV, there's a slew of harm, right?

Joe [00:52:15] Exactly. Well, there's finances involved, of course. But a famous guy once said forgive them for they know not what they do. And I see that so often I've had so many doctors come to me over the years and say I had no idea that enzymes might help this condition.

Joe [00:52:32] And for years, I treated patients this way. And now I know that I can do something as simple as this. Thank you. And almost every day, probably every day, we get e-mails and calls from radio shows and TV shows that I do saying thank you. This changed my life. And that's from doctors and hospitals and hospital administrators and nurses. And we have patients that come to us in droves as patients because they're not against it. They just didn't know it existed. And so I don't know any doctors that are maliciously out there trying to hurt somebody, you know. I know that everybody's trying to do the right thing. But many times they don't know what to do.

Ari [00:53:04] Right. I'm just, you know, like I said, I don't like the idea of vilifying doctors because they've been coronated in what they know and what they do. Right. System itself that we that we've allowed as a society and as an industry to have. Because there was a time when pharmaceutical companies were not allowed to advertise on TV. You're allowed to do some of the things that they are allowed to do now. Right. You know, doctors, you know, I say this once you've been enlightened, you cannot go back into the dark. Once your knowledge of something, you can't turn away from it. Right out of my book in this podcast. Create a new tomorrow is about how we get those people who are now awakened to get loud about it. Right. Just start. I say silence is a bully's best friend. It's one of my favorite sayings because. It's true that if you don't get loud, they're going to keep doing it. The people won't know what to ask for because they're not being informed properly, right? Sure. How do we get these people that are contacting you every day to not just change how they're treating the small amount of patients that they have? But to get loud about the system as a whole and how it's being suboptimal and the results that it's getting, right?

Joe [00:54:36] Well, we're seeing a big change, a big shift. You see so many documentaries now. I think I've been in three documentaries already. There's so many documentaries going out on Netflix and people getting excited about that. You're seeing the dairy industry really.

Joe [00:54:49] And again, I'm a capitalist. I'm OK. But unfortunate they're collapsing. And I'm not not unfortunately unfortunate for the farmers. I'm not unfortunate that dairy is going away. But you're seeing the rise of a plant based diet of vegan diets. I can't remember the last time I went to a restaurant that didn't have at least one plant based option or vegan option of at least vegetarian option. I wouldn't be dairy, but just the other day I got a coupon in the mail for pizza place and I just looked at it. Gluten free pizza, vegan options, vegan cheese. Ten years ago, it would have been unheard of. And here it is. That's just part of our advertising. You know, buy one, get one free. So I'm really excited that the world is waking up and I'm seeing that change every single day where, you know, I would talk about not eating me 30 years ago and was like crazy, not eating meat. Now it's like you see companies like Beyond Meets and Impossible Burgers. Their stocks are skyrocketing and Burger King carrying them now. So I definitely see the shift happening. And as long as we just keep momentum, it's like a car. We got it roll. And now we just got to keep pushing it a little bit. And I believe next 10 years or so, we're going to have a major shift in health care, not sick care and health care, chiropractic, nutrition, massage, the things we do at Oregon, work supplements. You're seeing the supplement business booming right now. So I think a lot of the pushback is in the past and we've kind of got the ball rolling. We just have to keep it going.

Ari [00:56:09] So then now that we've gotten it rolling, the question is how do we keep the quality high? Well, I've seen a lot of vegan options that I was really fascinated and interested and that I look at the ingredient list and it's junk and worth eating. Sure. And so, you know, part of what what I like to do is I like to say you could be a capitalist and you can earn a lot of money and you probably will earn a longer legacy of money if you do things right than if you do things quick. Exactly. And so how do we get these companies that are doing this amazing thing around plant based foods is not put in the stuff that is the.

Joe [00:56:58] Easiest thing to do is vote with your wallet.

Joe [00:57:01] And I do that everywhere I go.

Joe [00:57:03] If I'm not happy with service, I don't have to destroy this person. I don't want to have to put them out of business. I go somewhere else. They will destroy themselves. They will implode if they're doing bad service. Now, maybe it was just me. Maybe I was the exception. I wasn't the customer they gave the best service to. I don't want to put somebody out of business because they had a bad day or they had a bad employee that they didn't have control over. But if I'm going to eat a burger, well, I can decide which kind I want, because, like you said, a lot of the just cause it's vegan doesn't mean it's healthy.

Joe [00:57:31] You know, there's chocolate cookies with cream filling in a better, better vegan. I can't accidentally vegan. Was it meant to be vegan? It just happens to be. But that doesn't mean it's good. So vote with your wallet. And as long as we vote with our wallet, the industry is going to be driven to where the money is being spent. So it's a real simple process. So we're seeing more and more, you know, tea shops and coffee shops open up and they start to serve happy better teas and organic teas. And we see sandwich places now had vegan sandwiches. Well, it's not the best, but it's still better than having a baloney sandwich.

Ari [00:58:00] Then the next question is, how do we get the citizen, the citizenry, the people to learn what they should be spending their money on? And not because a lot of people I mean, I take people to grocery stores and I'll walk them around the aisles and I'll show them labels and ingredient lists and I'll teach them what it is that they're looking at. Sure. Ninety something percent of the time, not only have they never done that, but they wouldn't know what good or bad anyway. I mean, if you have fifteen different words for corn sirup.

Joe [00:58:37] Yes. Right. So I'm glutamate, right. Exactly. So what I do is I recommend everyone go to our Web site. drjoe.com. And just start listening to shows. Go listen to your podcasts. And the only way we're going to do it is to indoctrinate ourselves. So people like you and I are the leaders in this world. And it's a very simple thing. You know, people cutting the cable, they're not watching cable. The younger generation doesn't have TV anymore. So what can we do about that? Drive them to our podcast. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube at Dr. Joe Esposito. And the more followers we have, the more influence we have take. You know, if you follow us, we post every single day on social media. Take those things and share with your links. And now we can have a grassroots effort and start get people excited about it. So really a simple if everybody does one little thing, we'll grow this thing.

Ari [00:59:23] Yeah. You know, I love that we have listeners and we have people who are listening to our shows. What my hope is, is that those listeners become rather than passive listeners, they become active listeners. They start taking on the challenges and the things that we're talking about. Right. And they start sharing it with the people who are skeptical in their life and not so that they are picking fights with their friends who are, of course, right. These things. Right. But so that they are becoming an influencer themselves, so that when they have the knowledge. Now, you can't have that knowledge. But it is, in my opinion, your duty. Right. To start taking that knowledge out. And that's what I was saying about doctors who. Become enlightened. It's your duty. Yes. Loud about it. It's your duty to share it with as many people as possible to start your own podcasts, to start your own channels of becoming loud and educating the people around you. Because the only way things change, especially in mass movements, is by creating partnerships and teams and integrations and getting loud. Right. And we can make quiet, calm, peaceful revolutions, quiet, calm, peaceful protests. By just shifting ourselves and then quietly but loudly shifting the world around us. And that is definitely a goal of create a new tomorrow, which by tagline is activating your vision for a better world. So let's activate your vision for a better world. If you could look forward 20 years, what's the world that you want to see?

Joe [01:01:23] I still have a full head of hair. That's one goal.

Joe [01:01:30] Now, I definitely see the younger generation much more open to these changes, much more willing to say, yeah, you're right, that makes sense. And that's what I was I was laughing at as the three words. I want to hear every woman whisper in my ear, you know, that makes sense.

Joe [01:01:43] But I see in 20 years that health food, natural foods called health foods. What other would sick foods? Yes, actually, they are ethnic food. Yeah. But the health food just becomes the norm. No one argues with it anymore. That generation that argued with it are all dead or dying or sick. And I don't want that to happen to people that you can change this. I see that health care really is health. It's not about sick care. It's about health care. There will come a collapse of the health care system. It has to happen because if nothing if something doesn't work, eventually it's going to fall apart. Communism doesn't work. It's gonna fall apart. So it will fall apart. But it's not to just collapse. It's going to be taken over by things that are more effective, less expensive and less toxic. So the revolution is there. And, you know, to use that analogy, it's already happening. It's not like we have to start it. It's already going on. So I think in 20 years, could you hold the world? You know, things like chiropractic, things like raw food, things like supplementation are just going to be commonplace. No one's going to argue with that. You know, I think I do need an adjustment today. It's my chiropractic will get adjusted. So the fact the battle we fought the people before us fought is now coming to fruition. So it'll be a very different world. And I'm excited about.

Ari [01:02:57] You know, I've been in the industry twenty six years and you've been in the industry of probably thirty six years. So between us, that's 60 years. And seeing the changes, seeing the difference is seeing what has gone on. And in some cases it's gotten way worse, which, you know, they say you've got to go to rock bottom before, of course, where you can rebuild. But in some cases, there is a movement that I seen that is begun. I just want to have that movement go a lot faster. And, you know, I like Buckminster Fuller and he's one of my one of my mentors and inspirations. And he used to say, you know, you don't go up against the system as it is. Just build a better system. Right. Next store. The people will come. Exactly. You're saying people will vote with their wallet, their wallet. And, you know, my my hope is that the censorship that's happening right now isn't going to. STEM that movement as much as they're hoping it will. Right. And there there happens to be these powerful platforms of people that have decided what the narrative should be and that any narrative outside of it is. Is dangerous. And, you know, I just look at what is it that we can do to be more optimal? What can we do to perform at a higher level and get better results within a system and within ourselves? And you have given some amazing advice and tools so far. So the question that I have to finish this out and I ask this of everybody, what are two to three things that you can say that people can do right now, today, tomorrow, in order to activate their cells themselves and change their lives so that they can be more of a solution than than, you know, helping with the church become part of solution.

Joe [01:05:11] You have to eat anyway. You might as well good food, because the one thing we can't survive without is food. We can see if you're a heroin addict, if you're a gambling addict, you're a sex addict. If you're a cocaine addict, you can not have those things in your life. We have to have food now lives. And so only surround yourself with good food. Get the bad food out of the house. Oh, we have good food in the house. Take a high quality supplement. And this way we got the nutrition facts that if you don't know what to eat. Go to our Web site, DrJoe.com. You can type in something called the Seven Deadly Sins of Nutrition. We talk about the bad foods. And then a follow up to that is, so what can I eat? And whatever topic you have a question on? Go to our Web site, type it into Web site hit enter. Chances are we've done hours and hours of research on it for you. You just have to sit and listen or watch it. A lot of videos as well.

Ari [01:05:56] You said fifteen hundred hours of ponder now as a podcast.

Joe [01:05:59] Yeah, yeah. And they're all fine and they're all exciting and they're a little different than I've I've worked with people 10, 15 years in a business and they'll say, you know, like if my board operator so my producers and I like every time I listen to your shows, I learned five or six new things. I've a lot of stuff to repeat, but a lot there's always gonna be new information. And what you're going to hear it. You gotta hear something 11 times to memorize it. So I tell people, take a podcast you're excited about. Listen to it over and over again. It's every time you listen you to find new things. So don't ignore your health. It will go away. So take care of yourself. If you have neck pain, back pain to show the pain of headaches and numbness, find out why. If you're in the Atlanta area, we'd love to see you. We have four offices at the Stockbridge and West Cobb. Dr. Joe Gökhan is all the information. If you want to make an appointment, come see us. We can also do tell telemedicine if we need to. So find out what the cause is and get to the cause of your problem, not just treat the symptoms and then get the toxicity out of your life. And that goes for people. That goes for TV shows. I love listening to comedy. It's stuck in my brain shuts down. I like watching cartoons because it gives my brain a chance to kind of shut down and relax. Now, I could be watching. I don't watch the news anymore. I put it out in the morning.

Joe [01:07:12] I go through five or ten minutes, and then I got to stop because it's the same rhetoric over it over and over again. And that really brings me down. I'd rather watch an old episode of Friends or, you know, Parks Recreation or something or Futurama, because it's something that my brain I enjoy that. So surround yourself with the things that you enjoy. And if you do, those things can be pretty easy.

Ari [01:07:33] Thank you so much. I appreciate you coming on and. And we'll have to do this again sometime soon and kind of go through even more depth and details, because I can I can talk to you and learn for hours, hopefully teach you something, maybe that that you don't know.

Ari [01:07:53] And although I highly doubt it, you have.

Joe [01:07:56] Everyone know something you don't know.

Ari [01:07:57] So.

Ari [01:07:59] But anyway, thank you so much for being on. This has been another episode of Create a New Tomorrow with Joe Esposito and Ari Gronich, your hosts. So have a healthy day, everybody. Take some of these tools, put them into action and we'll see you next time.

Ari [01:08:18] Thank you for listening to this podcast. I appreciate all you do to create a new tomorrow for yourself and those around you.

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Ari [01:08:41] I have a gift for you. Just for checking it out. And look forward to seeing you take the leap. And joining our private paid mastermind community. Until then, see you on the next episode.